2018/19 Marco Silva - New Poll Added

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Lanolin said:
The fact that people still think he was a failure despite the fact we have got considerably worse with much more investment since he left is genuinely staggering. I could forgive people not understanding how good a job he was doing at the time because we were striving for better, but how you can still not get it now I really don't know.
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He did do a good job.

But what you aren't distinguishing is between a good job and success. Moyes had no success, nothing at all. When he left we were no closer to winning the league , in fact not at any point in 11 years were we ever close. So finishing midtable under him year after year isn't a success story.

Losing finals and semi finals doesn't equate to success neither.

Moyes did a fantastic job here make no mistake but he was in no way successful here neither. The only thing he succeeded in doing was turning us from a bottom half of the league team to a midtable one, where we have remained ever since.

Saint Domingo said:
We were circulating the drain and everyone knew it. Every other club in the prem outside the big six has gone down at some point. Just because we got lucky in 94 and 98 doesn’t mean we were special or anything, we would have gone down for sure and given the financial state of the club we probably would never have come back. No Moshiri, no new stadium, no 40 million pound players. If you want to belittle everything he did by saying he didn’t win a trophy then fine but given the absolute paucity of trophy winning Everton managers in our entire history it’s a strange view to take. In the context of the conditions he was in then his achievements were good ones and for people to deny that and call him a ‘complete failure’ is bizarre. Very well backed managers succeeding him haven’t even managed to equal his so called failures let alone do better.
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As above. You are not distinguishing between a success and a good job.

Walker circled the drain, Kendall circled the drain, Smith similar. None of them took us down neither, does that make them successful?

As i said earlier, if not getting relegated and finishing midtable every year is a success story then no wonder we haven't won anything in 24 years, it's the bill kenright motto.

But here is the thing. Martinez finished mid table, koeman finished midtable, Silva had us midtable, allardyce put us mid table.

See the correlation? Every manager has kept us midtable no matter what. Doesn't matter if it's a couple of places higher or lower, it's still outside the top 6 and still relying on a top 6 club to win a trophy to take us to Europe.

We are a midtable club , and Moyes tutned us into one. That is a good.job on his part under the circumstances but again not a success
hktoffee said:
Cannot contrast. Two totally different situation. We don’t have money in 2002.

I do have concerns over him because of the crap defence...incapable of keeping clean sheets and becoming crap at home...and this is alarming.
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He is doing the same job as his predecessors so not sure why anyone would question that.

Did you expect us to rival the top 6 this year? Top 4?
 
Kenshin said:
He did do a good job.

But what you aren't distinguishing is between a good job and success. Moyes had no success, nothing at all. When he left we were no closer to winning the league , in fact not at any point in 11 years were we ever close. So finishing midtable under him year after year isn't a success story.

Losing finals and semi finals doesn't equate to success neither.

Moyes did a fantastic job here make no mistake but he was in no way successful here neither. The only thing he succeeded in doing was turning us from a bottom half of the league team to a midtable one, where we have remained ever since.



As above. You are not distinguishing between a success and a good job.

Walker circled the drain, Kendall circled the drain, Smith similar. None of them took us down neither, does that make them successful?

As i said earlier, if not getting relegated and finishing midtable every year is a success story then no wonder we haven't won anything in 24 years, it's the bill kenright motto.

But here is the thing. Martinez finished mid table, koeman finished midtable, Silva had us midtable, allardyce put us mid table.

See the correlation? Every manager has kept us midtable no matter what. Doesn't matter if it's a couple of places higher or lower, it's still outside the top 6 and still relying on a top 6 club to win a trophy to take us to Europe.

We are a midtable club , and Moyes tutned us into one. That is a good.job on his part under the circumstances but again not a success

He is doing the same job as his predecessors so not sure why anyone would question that.

Did you expect us to rival the top 6 this year? Top 4?
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I said this a lot of times. No but I expect 7th which means the best of the rest. I expect to beat the like in Newcastle, Watford and Leicester at home. 7th with this squad is not a big ask.
 
Kenshin said:
He did do a good job.

But what you aren't distinguishing is between a good job and success. Moyes had no success, nothing at all. When he left we were no closer to winning the league , in fact not at any point in 11 years were we ever close. So finishing midtable under him year after year isn't a success story.

Losing finals and semi finals doesn't equate to success neither.

Moyes did a fantastic job here make no mistake but he was in no way successful here neither. The only thing he succeeded in doing was turning us from a bottom half of the league team to a midtable one, where we have remained ever since.



As above. You are not distinguishing between a success and a good job.

Walker circled the drain, Kendall circled the drain, Smith similar. None of them took us down neither, does that make them successful?

As i said earlier, if not getting relegated and finishing midtable every year is a success story then no wonder we haven't won anything in 24 years, it's the bill kenright motto.

But here is the thing. Martinez finished mid table, koeman finished midtable, Silva had us midtable, allardyce put us mid table.

See the correlation? Every manager has kept us midtable no matter what. Doesn't matter if it's a couple of places higher or lower, it's still outside the top 6 and still relying on a top 6 club to win a trophy to take us to Europe.

We are a midtable club , and Moyes tutned us into one. That is a good.job on his part under the circumstances but again not a success

He is doing the same job as his predecessors so not sure why anyone would question that.

Did you expect us to rival the top 6 this year? Top 4?
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Just beating one of them away would be enough for me right now.
 

hallamblue said:
If you remember Nev's last 2 or 3 years there was a lot of hesitation when he came off his line, used to give me kittens!
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Yeah,i don't think he was ever quite as dominant after that bad ankle injury in the 1986 run in,still fantastic for years but crosses wise although still excellent he'd lost a little bit in my own humble opinion.
 

davids said:
Very few modern day keepers dominate the box at set plays,maybe they are all looking for the photo opportunity of the spectacular finger tip from a twenty five yarder to post on their Instagram page.
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Im reading a book at the moment called 'The Nowhere Men' by Michael Calvin it's all about football scouting, there is a whole chapter in it about Moyes at Everton and how he went about selecting players using something called the 'whiteboard system' Aside from that there is another section all about goalkeepers, and about how it seems to have been coached into modern goalkeepers to dive when they don't need too just to slow the play down.
 
hktoffee said:
I said this a lot of times. No but I expect 7th which means the best of the rest. I expect to beat the like in Newcastle, Watford and Leicester at home. 7th with this squad is not a big ask.
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We beat Leicester away though?

And season isn't over yet , could well finish 7th
davids said:
Just beating one of them away would be enough for me right now.
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We all would love that mate. Waiting 20 years for it so not holding my breath though!
 
Seventh place is looking a bit out of our reach but I haven't given up hope. All our peer teams (West Ham, Wolves, Brighton, Bournemouth and Leicester) must harbour similar ambition to snaffle this most desirable title.... 'the best of the rest'

The Cup?...no chance as we'll defo meet a SKY6 team...and it's very rare our lion-hearted lads can handle that pressure


NSNO
 

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