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Martinez new Belgium head coach

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davek said:
Resurrected one club in the wilderness over here, gave another one a major trophy in England, and handed us our best season in the club's PL history in terms of playing good football consistently and winning games.

Lets' not lose sight of that. He's not some Johnny Foreigner with zero knowledge or impact. In fact, he's much more English than he is Spanish football wise.
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He'd do well at a club like osasuna

Good little job for him that
 
Connor said:
He'll have too, considering his one-year contract on sub 1 million a year.

Maybe he'll just live on his pay-off from us and do the footballing world a favour.
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You really are ungrateful. Do you think this Dutch lad will give you a season where we win all but 17 games and gets us to Wembley in three seasons?

Have a look at that game last night, then have a look at the win we got at OT under Martinez. That'll tell you all you need to know why one could have a magnificent season and the other will get a Moyes-like one.
 
davek said:
You really are ungrateful. Do you think this Dutch lad will give you a season where we win all but 17 games and gets us to Wembley in three seasons?

Have a look at that game last night, then have a look at the win we got at OT under Martinez. That'll tell you all you need to know why one could have a magnificent season and the other will get a Moyes-like one.
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No Dave, I was grateful for one of my favourite seasons watching Everton and the following European run. What I'm not grateful for it paying 700 quid for two season tickets and seeing 4 wins.

His win at Old Trafford was similar to last night but we held on and scored late instead of scoring early. Look, here's the stats for his win:

Overall
Possession %
52-48
Shots
Total
14-10
On target
6-4
Off target
8-7

And here's the stats for last night:

Overall
Possession %
61-39
Shots
Total shots
18-11
On target
3-4
Off target
8-2
Blocked
7-5

We didn't dominate either game. Don't rewrite history.
 

Connor said:
No Dave, I was grateful for one of my favourite seasons watching Everton and the following European run. What I'm not grateful for it paying 700 quid for two season tickets and seeing 4 wins.

His win at Old Trafford was similar to last night but we held on and scored late instead of scoring early. Look, here's the stats for his win:

Overall
Possession %
52-48
Shots
Total
14-10
On target
6-4
Off target
8-7

And here's the stats for last night:

Overall
Possession %
61-39
Shots
Total shots
18-11
On target
3-4
Off target
8-2
Blocked
7-5

We didn't dominate either game. Don't rewrite history.
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We went there and went toe to to for 90 minutes; last night he shut up shop after 45 minutes.

As said: he's a steady Eddie. We'll never get the gambling instinct from him we need to get CL levels of wins per season. He bottles the big encounters.
 

davek said:
We went there and went toe to to for 90 minutes; last night he shut up shop after 45 minutes.

As said: he's a steady Eddie. We'll never get the gambling instinct from him we need to get CL levels of wins per season. He bottles the big encounters.
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At that point, it wasn't hard to. West Brom went there and beat them 2-1 too don't forget.
 
davek said:
You really are ungrateful. Do you think this Dutch lad will give you a season where we win all but 17 games and gets us to Wembley in three seasons?

Have a look at that game last night, then have a look at the win we got at OT under Martinez. That'll tell you all you need to know why one could have a magnificent season and the other will get a Moyes-like one.
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Lol
 
davek said:
Very churlish.
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Not so Dave, we were under the cosh quite a bit in that game. Maybe you should reread a few match reports:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...an-Oviedo-scores-winner-stun-David-Moyes.html

For half an hour before half-time, United forced Everton back and Marouane Fellaini grew in stature. Fellaini prowled the width of halfway, collecting scraps, leaning around with his giant frame, easing possession away from the would-be counter-attackers in blue shirts.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/25115886

United, after a hesitant start, worked their way into the game and keeper Tim Howard twice came to Everton's rescue with good blocks from Rooney and Shinji Kagawa.

And as pressure mounted on the Everton goal Ryan Giggs glanced a header just wide from Rafael's cross and Rooney was desperately unlucky to see a shot deflected off the post via Jagielka and Sylvain Distin, allowing Howard to clear with his feet.
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http://www.skysports.com/football/man-utd-vs-everton/300998

It took them (United) a good 15 minutes to exert any pressure, although after that they seemed to find space easy to come by without really doing much to exploit it.

Evra fizzed a cross into the six-yard area and Oviedo made a vital last-ditch tackle on Antonio Valencia.

Unsurprisingly though, United's most dangerous moments centred around Rooney.

The shot that cannoned back off a post had flicked off Phil Jagielka and Sylvain Distin before it reached its destination, and Howard did well to boot the rebound to safety before Shinji Kagawa could pounce.

His failure to turn home Kagawa's low cross shortly afterwards was a shock, even though it flew through a crowd of bodies, if only because of the form he has been in.

Given a second chance, his instinct was right as he hooked the ball goalwards but the power was missing and Everton managed to clear
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A fine win no doubt but let's check United's home form that season just to reinforce the point.

0-0 Chelsea
2-0 win over Palace
2-1 loss to West Brom - First time since 1978
1-1 Southampton
3-2 win over Stoke - Came back twice
1-0 win over Arsenal - Starting to come into some home form here Davey, well done
1-0 loss to us - Really unfortunate that Dave, just starting to figure it out
1-0 loss to Newcastle - Bit of a tail spin but you'll fix this now Ginge
3-1 win over West Ham - That'll do it Davey, good win
FA Cup Home loss - 2-1 Swansea. FFS, Third Round exit again Davey.
2-1 loss to Spurs - FFS Dave, back to square one. Get Vidic to watch Distin again.
2-0 win over Swansea - Working on Set Pieces on Thursday really worked there Davey.
2-0 win over Cardiff - Well done Ginge, the Welsh double achieved!
2-2 draw with Fulham - 90 crosses in a game, wow.
3-0 loss to Liverpool - Fans won't be happy with that.
3-0 loss to City - Wow, massive blip here Davey but you'll sort it, you always do.
4-1 win over Villa - That's the ticket.
SACKED - FFS Davey, really unlucky that.

So, in review:
Vs Top 5 6 sides (that season) - 1 Win, 0 draws, 5 losses.
First WBA win since 1978
First Everton win in 21 years
First Newcastle win since 1972
First consecutive home losses since 2001/02 - Everton and Newcastle

In summary. LOL at Moyes and Martinez.
 
Can't we just move on?

13/14 was boss tho. Actual hope and positivity that hadn't existed for years before and hasn't been replaced. Koeman has returned us to Moyes levels of best of the rest.

Hopefully after the next window he exceeds both of them.
 

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