No chance, but you have to admire his consistency and his unique ability to flip flop like no other on here.
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Martinez new Belgium head coach
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No chance, but you have to admire his consistency and his unique ability to flip flop like no other on here.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
The legacy lives on: after RM was sacked the club tried to go back to hoofball and were hammered for it. There was no mileage in that. They had to turn to the football template as laid down by Martinez. We now have a Martinez-type manager back again: one who wont revert to the hoof, one who wont see certain fixtures as unwinnable. Brave football where we get on the ball and aren't afraid of a side pressing. That's the Martinez legacy. He lost the battle and won the war.
He didn't even finish 11th when he was sacked. He was sacked with the club in 13th. Unsworth's final day win got us to 11th.
People even go as far as to forget his spineless act of throwing the kids in against Bournemouth as protection because Goodison was very much against him.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
Ha Ha Ha.
Yeah, "spineless" is the word to use for a manager who goes in and takes responsibility to gel a Belgian team full of egos. He'll also be spinless when or if he does the same at Madrid.
Dave, he will be the lackey brought in until the summer until they can a real, top quality manager like Pochettino.
Him being 'Ex-Real Madrid manager' will be his Allardyce 'Ex-Everton manager' tag.
Carl O'Ancelotti
Player Valuation: £20m
Forgot what was a cataclysmic ending it was as I've erased it from my memory.
I doubt Silva will be continuing El Failure's "legacy", in any way, shape or form.
TheBigIguana
Player Valuation: £100m
People make the Belgium job out like getting it is some kind of massive achievement and while it is true that the team currently is stocked with talent, it is still not a particularly high paying job and international football in general is not filled with high quality managers. My guess would be the competition for the spot wasn't what people think it would be just by looking at who plays for them. Also this is an FA that couldn't tell that Wilmots was totally wasting the talent until he got beat by Wales in a knockout game.
If you're pointing to his actual performance than I'd still argue he hasn't done much but that is reasonable enough. The idea that because he got the job he has been validated as a quality manager really isn't reasonable.
If you're pointing to his actual performance than I'd still argue he hasn't done much but that is reasonable enough. The idea that because he got the job he has been validated as a quality manager really isn't reasonable.
ijjysmith
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@MarkK1988 - well Jones did leave the assistant job with Belgium to assist Moore at West Brom.
So he’s clearly a bit weird.
So he’s clearly a bit weird.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
Top manager like the trophyless Pochetinno. Ok.
GwladysPhil
Player Valuation: £35m
Don't get that?
brieverton
Player Valuation: £50m
I hope he gets it, and good luck to him if so.
Time does allow for a bit more sentimentality to seep in when making judgements, but I liked him and still like him. Perhaps he was just too ahead of himself with his ideas and quite obviously lost the run of things here, and didn't enjoy anything like the resources bestowed on Koeman.
Of course having Koeman and Allardyce as his immediate successors reflects much the better on him, but I appreciated how he carried himself and how he represented the club.
He is a good coach, and if he gets the job at Madrid, it is an accolade for however long or short his stay is. That couldn't be taken off his CV. I'm not sure that being appointed Real manager is an endorsement of ability in itself, as they can have a tendency to make some left-field appointments but they have the luxury of being able to get away with it and start over.
No doubt it would be a test of his abilities with an aging squad at the end of an era but if he got through the season then what a marvellous opportunity to rebuild that squad, albeit with much interference from above.
The best of luck to him.
Time does allow for a bit more sentimentality to seep in when making judgements, but I liked him and still like him. Perhaps he was just too ahead of himself with his ideas and quite obviously lost the run of things here, and didn't enjoy anything like the resources bestowed on Koeman.
Of course having Koeman and Allardyce as his immediate successors reflects much the better on him, but I appreciated how he carried himself and how he represented the club.
He is a good coach, and if he gets the job at Madrid, it is an accolade for however long or short his stay is. That couldn't be taken off his CV. I'm not sure that being appointed Real manager is an endorsement of ability in itself, as they can have a tendency to make some left-field appointments but they have the luxury of being able to get away with it and start over.
No doubt it would be a test of his abilities with an aging squad at the end of an era but if he got through the season then what a marvellous opportunity to rebuild that squad, albeit with much interference from above.
The best of luck to him.
BigMick
Player Valuation: £20m
I'd definitely go there if I was Martinez.
With his positivism and unique ability to blow smoke up the backsides of all those massive egos, plus the normal 'new manager boost' syndrome , he's certain to be an improvement on the previous charlatan. He might even help create some fantastic moments for the supporters in the CL.
At the end of the season he could step aside for whoever Real really want to take over with his reputation unblemished, his pay packet bloated, Real Madrid on his CV and walk into another better paid job than he's on with Belgium.
However, to repeat an earlier post, why would Madrid appoint someone on the basis of what he's done in international football when the previous one, who had an even better record in his 20 games with Spain than Roberto has with Belgium, was such a disaster? Are they really that thick?
With his positivism and unique ability to blow smoke up the backsides of all those massive egos, plus the normal 'new manager boost' syndrome , he's certain to be an improvement on the previous charlatan. He might even help create some fantastic moments for the supporters in the CL.
At the end of the season he could step aside for whoever Real really want to take over with his reputation unblemished, his pay packet bloated, Real Madrid on his CV and walk into another better paid job than he's on with Belgium.
However, to repeat an earlier post, why would Madrid appoint someone on the basis of what he's done in international football when the previous one, who had an even better record in his 20 games with Spain than Roberto has with Belgium, was such a disaster? Are they really that thick?
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