Martinez new Belgium head coach

[davek]

He left us with no viable strikers. He would not have signed Lukaku (There was no sign of a permanent deal at the time). The other key players that season were Barry and McCarthy, would he have signed either of them?

He left Martinez with Dads Army and a dressing room full of snides.

 

[davek]

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What's the point of posting that? I could respond with a picture of Alex Ferguson and Jose Mourinho lifting that troohy.

*sigh*

 

[KaiserEFC]

Ferguson got sacked by St Mirren at roughly the same age so...

Yes because that was the point I was making

 

[Papa Shango]

Yes because that was the point I was making

I thought the point you were making was that good managers don't get sacked?

 

[polish]

What's the point of posting that? I could respond with a picture of Alex Ferguson and Jose Mourinho lifting that troohy.

*sigh*

McLeish won the pot for Birmingham (their first since 60's) and got them relegated. Isn't that familiar?

 

[Thomasc]

What's the point of posting that? I could respond with a picture of Alex Ferguson and Jose Mourinho lifting that troohy.

*sigh*

I think he’s trying to tell you winning one of the knock out competitions in England isn’t the best barometer on how to judge a manager, as the photo clearly indicates.

Especially when the same manager gets relegated in the same season.

 

[degsy]

Agree on this, no fluke, however the credit for the 72 points goes to Moyes since it was he that had the players so well drilled and organised, infact if he had stayed just one more season I think in the 2013/14 season we might of got 73 points under Davey

Soz mate, but I have to go with dave in that last bit...

Ha Ha Ha.
No.

...We needed the 'Goldilocks Option' not too much Moyes, not too much Martinez, but just right, Moyes couldn't open it up a little, and Martinez wouldn't tighten it up....as season 2 and after showed.

 

[hktoffee]

He left Martinez with Dads Army and a dressing room full of snides.

Dave mate 6 months to go till 2020 and Martinez left us with McCarthy, Niasse, Besic, Tarashaj, Garbutt and Galloway (gone, just). He gave Mirallas a new deal too. The damage is still visible.

 

[davek]

Dave mate 6 months to go till 2020 and Martinez left us with McCarthy, Niasse, Besic, Tarashaj, Garbutt and Galloway (gone, just). He gave Mirallas a new deal too. The damage is still visible.

No damage done to Everton by Martinez overall. The cash made from the players he borught in at least broke even and probably we're in the black with them [especially if you factor in Stones' development under Martinez and count him - legitimately - in the Martinez plus column].

Koeman destroyed Everton.....I'll say that again, because I dont think enough people get it and / or accept it...

KOEMAN DESTROYED EVERTON.

 

[MikeH72]

Dave mate 6 months to go till 2020 and Martinez left us with McCarthy, Niasse, Besic, Tarashaj, Garbutt and Galloway (gone, just). He gave Mirallas a new deal too. The damage is still visible.

Actually that was Koeman in 2017. He’s the reason Mirallas is still here.

 

[hktoffee]

Actually that was Koeman in 2017. He’s the reason Mirallas is still here.

Thanks for the reminder. Still, the number of RM players we are struggling to get rid is quite astonishing.

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

It's good to have Dave back in full flow.

But...


5, 6 and 7. He has far and away the best crop of players of any Belgian manager, including players at or approaching their peak and with previous WC experience.

And, you know, Belgium go to the semi-finals in 1986 as well...

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

Koeman and Martinez were both rubbish in their own ways

Martinez wins though because he was at least a likable personality, where as Koeman was a glum fat headed bore

 

[Gwladysstreetlad]

No damage done to Everton by Martinez overall. The cash made from the players he borught in at least broke even and probably we're in the black with them [especially if you factor in Stones' development under Martinez and count him - legitimately - in the Martinez plus column].

Koeman destroyed Everton.....I'll say that again, because I dont think enough people get it and / or accept it...

KOEMAN DESTROYED EVERTON.

Come on Dave lets be sensible here. Neither Martinez or Koeman "destroyed" us. At worst you could make a case that either/both set us back a few years but destroyed?! Come on mate, we're in the exact same postion that we've been in for the best of twenty years.......

 

[davek]

Come on Dave lets be sensible here. Neither Martinez or Koeman "destroyed" us. At worst you could make a case that either/both set us back a few years but destroyed?! Come on mate, we're in the exact same postion that we've been in for the best of twenty years.......

Leave Martinez out of it. He did fine. Performance wise and finance wise. Koeman did neither.

And we are destroyed as a club with elite pretensions because Koeman basically took £200M we needed to make the leap into the top level and shovelled it into a furnace. He's put us a decade back. At least.