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Mason Greenwood

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chrismpw said:
I font doubt it... but "probably" is the damning word that destroys all the arguments here. The law and right does not and should not take "probably" into account. So much of this case is assumption by the public.

And to be clear to those many so far that are too dull to have understood my point ... I'm not saying what he is alleged to have done, (if the alleged evidence is shown to be admissible) is in any way ok!!
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please?

you are arguing with those, including myself that have heard the whatsapp video, and it aint on. you can fight the corner of the law and decency here but it aint gonna fly. you keep digging. knock it off.

Here: "I respectfully disagree with the conclusions derived from evidence I have not seen or heard" that is all.

Your spelling conveys something else to me that is unusual for you. Rehydrate and have a fresh minded go tomorrow.
 
chrismpw said:
I have nothing to sell other than an opinion pointing out that we do not know all the facts. I'm not defending the blert - I barely know of him and care even less ... I just get jumpy when a crowd if lemmings start running and I question the reasons. Apparently this makes me all kinds of misogynist for not automatically condemning him.

If you know more than the CPS to make a case then please state it.
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Not helping.
 
chrismpw said:
but "probably" is the damning word that destroys all the arguments here.
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No it doesn't. I have formed an opinion of him based on that recording because it is absolutely obscene behaviour that, in my experience, doesn't happen in a vacuum. He has the money to make the legal problems go away and perhaps even continue to act like a little rapist for the rest of his life, but he doesn't have the money to make me feel any differently about what I heard. You pick weird hills to die on, especially when it comes to women, but anyone who could listen to that recording and say "cool, nothing to see here" needs a hard look at themselves imo
 
Prevenger17 said:
No it doesn't. I have formed an opinion of him based on that recording because it is absolutely obscene behaviour that, in my experience, doesn't happen in a vacuum. He has the money to make the legal problems go away and perhaps even continue to act like a little rapist for the rest of his life, but he doesn't have the money to make me feel any differently about what I heard. You pick weird hills to die on, especially when it comes to women, but anyone who could listen to that recording and say "cool, nothing to see here" needs a hard look at themselves imo
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He's not heard it. That's why I'm trying to deflect the shots. I have. It's awful, and if she was my sister I'd have killed him ten times over. But Chris hasn't heard it. It's an abstract apples and pears....
 
Rita_Poon said:
please?

you are arguing with those, including myself that have heard the whatsapp video, and it aint on. you can fight the corner of the law and decency here but it aint gonna fly. you keep digging. knock it off.

Here: "I respectfully disagree with the conclusions derived from evidence I have not seen or heard" that is all.

Your spelling conveys something else to me that is unusual for you. Rehydrate and have a fresh minded go tomorrow.
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Typos not equal to misspelling buddy.
(Not helped the the ruddy ad that now automatically covers the part where I'm typing unless i deliberatel scroll away. .. thanks Danny).

Maybe this debate should be better settled in the normal social media manner where I make it or respond to it becoming personal and start throwing insults ... but I'm not a teenager ... I'll just stick to reason.

But geesh -how many people don't bother reading thotoughly before they jump in with assumptions. No wonder politicians bother with (and win with) nothing other than soundbites .
 

Prevenger17 said:
No it doesn't. I have formed an opinion of him based on that recording because it is absolutely obscene behaviour that, in my experience, doesn't happen in a vacuum. He has the money to make the legal problems go away and perhaps even continue to act like a little rapist for the rest of his life, but he doesn't have the money to make me feel any differently about what I heard. You pick weird hills to die on, especially when it comes to women, but anyone who could listen to that recording and say "cool, nothing to see here" needs a hard look at themselves imo
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Where have I said any of those things? I th8nk you've used your "probably" assumption on me here. If you read back with the guidance of an English teacher I think you'll see me
1 query what's going on with the mob
2 admit I don't know the story
3 am presented with and read a transcript
4 admit that if the transcript is a true record then it's indefensible behaviour.

The rest is raising awareness that we should be cautious because women have been known to make things up. God forgive me for stating fact.

Do you understand the difference between me saying something may not be true and something is not true?
 

chrismpw said:
I'll assume you lazily haven't read the rest of what I've written here , rather than assume you're a total blithering idiot for misunderstanding it. For clarity - at no point have I ever defended him - I can't. I don't know the case, I wouldn't dream of it. I'm just cautioning people to look into evidence, rather than follow a crowd. I've also suggested that women (not in this case) can also (god forbid me fir not being woketastic 3000) guilty of being dishonest or in the wrong eith their claims (ref to the case of female Rooney v female Vardy - both women, one found to be in the wrong. The judge also must have been a misogynist.)
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I’ll assume you lazily haven’t read my post, rather than assume you’re a total blithering idiot for misunderstanding it.

I didn’t say you defended him, rather you refused to condemn him despite having read the transcript of the event in this thread and (barely) reacting to it.

What a strange example of female dishonesty you’ve chosen to use. Also strange in general, to reiterate my original point, that you couldn’t possibly condemn him without all the facts, yet confidently choose to leave a helpful reminder of what deceitful creatures women can be; given there’s only one female complainant in this case, my Woketastic 3000 mind can only imagine what it is you’re trying to say.
 
Brett Angell Delight said:
I’ll assume you lazily haven’t read my post, rather than assume you’re a total blithering idiot for misunderstanding it.

I didn’t say you defended him, rather you refused to condemn him despite having read the transcript of the event in this thread and (barely) reacting to it.

What a strange example of female dishonesty you’ve chosen to use. Also strange in general, to reiterate my original point, that you couldn’t possibly condemn him without all the facts, yet confidently choose to leave a helpful reminder of what deceitful creatures women can be; given there’s only one female complainant in this case, my Woketastic 3000 mind can only imagine what it is you’re trying to say.
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Try re-reading the thread. You must have missed the places I expressed my condemnation then. Perhaps I didn't add enough socially acceptable hyperbole or maybe you couldn't see it for the indignant frothing coming from your mouth.as you searched for someone to be angry with who wasn't as angry over the matter as you are.
 
chrismpw said:
I have nothing to sell other than an opinion pointing out that we do not know all the facts. I'm not defending the blert - I barely know of him and care even less ... I just get jumpy when a crowd if lemmings start running and I question the reasons. Apparently this makes me all kinds of misogynist for not automatically condemning him.

If you know more than the CPS to make a case then please state it.
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I'm lost for words, this case is not a good example to bring that up.
 

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