2023/24 Mason Holgate

[Goat]

Joselu , a journeyman professional who spent some time with Stoke last night scored to get Madrid into a CL final.

There would have been uproar on here if we had signed him.

It just shows players can do well at some clubs and not at others and also what a really good manager can get from ordinary players.

Holgate is no world beater but certainly was not a bad player.
I don't know why but his form has fallen off a cliff in the last year or two.

Dyche said that Holgate pushed for a move away at the start of the season and it makes me wonder if he has lost the taste for the hard work that professional football demands. He is already a wealthy young man.

Surely if he had lost the taste for hard work he would have wanted to stay at Everton and sit on the bench? Or at home.

 

[Marc bolan]

He can keep Dele company on the bench there's million a month wages

 

[Eggs]

He can keep Dele company on the bench there's million a month wages

…I’d be very concerned if Dele is still here to join him on the bench.

 

[gonetomorrow]

The best thing he did was push Firmino into Row B during the derby. And then front up the sod when he emerged.

 

[blue61]

There were Barnsley fans saying he was a better prospect than Stones when we signed him. They were obviously wrong. Some players forge ahead and embrace professional football, others (Holgate) don't have the push to really succeed. Its a fine line.

 

[Zatara]

Joselu , a journeyman professional who spent some time with Stoke last night scored to get Madrid into a CL final.

There would have been uproar on here if we had signed him.

It just shows players can do well at some clubs and not at others and also what a really good manager can get from ordinary players.

Holgate is no world beater but certainly was not a bad player.
I don't know why but his form has fallen off a cliff in the last year or two.

Dyche said that Holgate pushed for a move away at the start of the season and it makes me wonder if he has lost the taste for the hard work that professional football demands. He is already a wealthy young man.

If Holgate is pushing for a move it means he wants game time.

If he "lost the taste for hard work" as you say then he'd sit around at Everton not having to play.

 

[T LEAFE]

There were Barnsley fans saying he was a better prospect than Stones when we signed him. They were obviously wrong. Some players forge ahead and embrace professional football, others (Holgate) don't have the push to really succeed. Its a fine line.

Is it due to intelligence in any way?

 

[jazzy]

Is it due to intelligence in any way?

That's a bit harsh on Barnsley fans mate lol

 

[blue61]

Is it due to intelligence in any way?

Thats a big part of it.

 

[Littlesue]

On his way back, took his time to thank them, wonder if he was hoping they would buy him

 

[Toffeelover]

Championship player

 

[riddick]

There were Barnsley fans saying he was a better prospect than Stones when we signed him. They were obviously wrong. Some players forge ahead and embrace professional football, others (Holgate) don't have the push to really succeed. Its a fine line.

That's not exactly "true" per se. Having the raw fundamentals and awareness along with the skill, being a "better prospect" it's probable he was a better player. He was our best defender for about a year. Read the game well and had really good positional strength. He's been a shell of that player for about 3 years now tho.

 

[GoldenToffee]

Keep him away from the first team.

 

[blueblue]

If Holgate is pushing for a move it means he wants game time.

If he "lost the taste for hard work" as you say then he'd sit around at Everton not having to play.

I don't think anyone just sits around with Sean Dyche.
If Holgate wanted game Time he had an Unusual way of trying to get it.

I think he may well be back at Everton next season, it is hard to see any club taking him on.

 

[COYBL25]

There were Barnsley fans saying he was a better prospect than Stones when we signed him. They were obviously wrong. Some players forge ahead and embrace professional football, others (Holgate) don't have the push to really succeed. Its a fine line.

A lot of players plateau and very few just keep getting better and better - which is why players with this potential cost such big money ( think Branthwaite )

Stones just got better and better, where as Holgate stopped and ended up going backwards.