Messymascot's faith in humanity and ginger safe haven

[jazzy]

Morning everyone,

Well it isn't good is it , every morning we wake up to another atrocity from the Ukraine.

Today is Mrs Js birthday so we are having a day out at the Forest of Bowland with a bit of antique shopping in Clitheroe and lunch in a Mexican.

Well it seems that everyone on here is accepting that we should talk about the invasion now so here's my take.

Putin is leading his country and the World down a very dark path and I fear a path of no return. He only understands 1 thing and that is force and power in return.

We all say he had to be stopped but how. If sanctions are going to work ( and pure economic sanctions have never worked in this situation in the past ) then it will take years .

In that time Putin will destroy an independent country and kill hundreds and thousands of totally innocent people.

Unchecked he will look to pick off the next non NATO country probably Moldova ,perhaps he will look to the North.

No one wants another World War and the terrible threat of nuclear war but history tells us that unless we stand up to this madman now the cconsequences could be even worse in the future.

We must stop the slaughter in Ukraine.

And to think.that some Evertonians are complaining that Usmanov / USM have been sanctioned and the implications for Everton. Against the background of his mate Putin being the butcher of Europe it is beyond me. If you sleep with dogs , you get fleas. Everton will have to accept the price for taking dirty money.

@Sassy Colombian delighted to hear that the job is going well and that you are sorting your work life balance.

I will PM you some photos of my garden ( don't want to clogg up this thread and bore Fred).

Great to hear everyone's musical journey and tastes.

When I was young the only thing I used to listen to was the Beatles , and I still love them now. Paul was always my favourite of the Fab 4. I still regularly play Beatles , Wings and Macca .

Like Fred I was into Tangerine Dream, Kraftwerk , Wakeman, Mike Oldfield , Jean Michel Jarre and Camel. Used to love a bit of prog rock!

I've always liked melodic pop like Joan Armatrding , Simon and Garfunkel, Steely Dan , Fleetwood Mac etc.

In the 80/90s I liked punk and then electronics similar to @anjelikaferrett.

Again a few outliers , for instance I am a huge Kate Bush fan , I have every album and think that she's a genius.

In the 90s I started to get into jazz in a big way. I love jazz from the classical priod of 1950 to 1964 , particularly Miles Davis . I think ( at Mrs Js last count!) I have about 2000 jazz cds!

I like some classical music ( an old schoolmate is the leader of the Seville Orchestra) but not opera or choral.

@Sassy Colombian I am also into a lot of Latin and World music. Have you listened to Bebel Gilberto ( daughter of Astrud who sang on The Girl from Ipanema with Stan Getz) , check out Tanto Tempo. Also you might like Ceu another Brazilian female singer.

@Terrarian I love seeing those photos of Daisy , keep them coming.

Oh , we got a football match tonight. Good luck to Frank and the boys , we really shouldn't need it.

I hope that everyone has a lovely day. My thoughts are with those brave souls in Ukraine.

 

[Terrarian]

Morning everyone,

Well it isn't good is it , every morning we wake up to another atrocity from the Ukraine.

Today is Mrs Js birthday so we are having a day out at the Forest of Bowland with a bit of antique shopping in Clitheroe and lunch in a Mexican.

Well it seems that everyone on here is accepting that we should talk about the invasion now so here's my take.

Putin is leading his country and the World down a very dark path and I fear a path of no return. He only understands 1 thing and that is force and power in return.

We all say he had to be stopped but how. If sanctions are going to work ( and pure economic sanctions have never worked in this situation in the past ) then it will take years .

In that time Putin will destroy an independent country and kill hundreds and thousands of totally innocent people.

Unchecked he will look to pick off the next non NATO country probably Moldova ,perhaps he will look to the North.

No one wants another World War and the terrible threat of nuclear war but history tells us that unless we stand up to this madman now the cconsequences could be even worse in the future.

We must stop the slaughter in Ukraine.

And to think.that some Evertonians are complaining that Usmanov / USM have been sanctioned and the implications for Everton. Against the background of his mate Putin being the butcher of Europe it is beyond me. If you sleep with dogs , you get fleas. Everton will have to accept the price for taking dirty money.

@Sassy Colombian delighted to hear that the job is going well and that you are sorting your work life balance.

I will PM you some photos of my garden ( don't want to clogg up this thread and bore Fred).

Great to hear everyone's musical journey and tastes.

When I was young the only thing I used to listen to was the Beatles , and I still love them now. Paul was always my favourite of the Fab 4. I still regularly play Beatles , Wings and Macca .

Like Fred I was into Tangerine Dream, Kraftwerk , Wakeman, Mike Oldfield , Jean Michel Jarre and Camel. Used to love a bit of prog rock!

I've always liked melodic pop like Joan Armatrding , Simon and Garfunkel, Steely Dan , Fleetwood Mac etc.

In the 80/90s I liked punk and then electronics similar to @anjelikaferrett.

Again a few outliers , for instance I am a huge Kate Bush fan , I have every album and think that she's a genius.

In the 90s I started to get into jazz in a big way. I love jazz from the classical priod of 1950 to 1964 , particularly Miles Davis . I think ( at Mrs Js last count!) I have about 2000 jazz cds!

I like some classical music ( an old schoolmate is the leader of the Seville Orchestra) but not opera or choral.

@Sassy Colombian I am also into a lot of Latin and World music. Have you listened to Bebel Gilberto ( daughter of Astrud who sang on The Girl from Ipanema with Stan Getz) , check out Tanto Tempo. Also you might like Ceu another Brazilian female singer.

@Terrarian I love seeing those photos of Daisy , keep them coming.

Oh , we got a football match tonight. Good luck to Frank and the boys , we really shouldn't need it.

I hope that everyone has a lovely day. My thoughts are with those brave souls in Ukraine.

I will keep sharing some each day if you like them Jazzy. Happy Birthday to Mrs J, enjoy your day out and your meal.

Love Jean Michelle Jarre and Kraftwerk and I enjoyed Oldfield's Tubular Bells, JMJ was the start of my electronic journey he's a genius.

 

[Barnfred 55]

Now on a lighter note, I also have a very eclectic and diverse music taste. I like everything from classical, to 80s music groups like the Cure, Depeche Mode, the Police, Duran Duran, B-52s, U2, REM and of course Madonna (because girls just wanna have fun lol.) I absolutely love the Beatles, their free spirit tunes and messages of peace have always resonated with me. I grew up listening to them at home, my dad played their music and classical music too. In the right setting I can enjoy flamenco, jazz and reggae. I am very keen of Latin music because of my Colombian roots. So music such as salsa, vallenato, merengue, cumbia and reggaeton are my favorite Latin genres to dance and do some hip shaking. But I also really enjoy dancing to electronic and house music. My husband and I used to dance a lot when we were younger. There was a time in our lives that we had a lot of DJ friends so we spent a good amount of time during our 20s at dance clubs and even at some raves ? like I mentioned I like almost all music, I’m not crazy about American country music or rap but I don’t hate them either.

You must have liked Cindy Lauper then too Sass

 

[jazzy]

I will keep sharing some each day if you like them Jazzy. Happy Birthday to Mrs J, enjoy your day out and your meal.

Love Jean Michelle Jarre and Kraftwerk and I enjoyed Oldfield's Tubular Bells, JMJ was the start of my electronic journey he's a genius.

If you like Jarre. Try Tomita . He's Japanese and very inventive

 

[Barnfred 55]

@Barnfred 55 you can relate

Of course. We were National Trust members and visited frequently. There was a nice walk down to the river by Speke sailing club, which 95% of people in Speke probably don't know even exists.

 

[Barnfred 55]

I could never warm to U2. A totally forced band always looking for the next image change or statement to claim the headlines. It was never a case of evolving with the music, it was always the image first.

Always content to play to the Irish diaspora but never missed an opportunity to have a dig at the country itself.

Rant over ?

Their early albums, Boy, October and War I think, were excellent. Got a but up their own backsides after that. I agree on C&W though.

 

[Barnfred 55]

Here's a pic from when I went to see MUSE @Barnfred 55
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Them and Genesis where the best bands I ever saw live. There's a great video of them live in Rome on Sky Arts. The Italians know how to enjoy music. Amazing how they know all the words but when you go there on holiday nobody speaks English.

 

[Gwladysover]

Thanks @Gwladysover Me too, things are going much better than I had expected I hope you enjoy your sausage and mash but I was wondering if when you talk about mash is this potatoes?

Yes it is potatoes, boiled then mashed with butter and milk. I prefer King Edward’s , an old fashioned variety but I think they are the best.

 

[jazzy]

You must have liked Cindy Lauper then too Sass

Schoolgirl error by the Sassy one , after all she must have listened to "Girls just wanna have fun" , "Time after time".

Talking of which Miles Davis did a beautiful version of it just before he died.

 

[Gwladysover]

@blue1948 hope you feel better soon. @jazzy Happy Birthday to Mrs J.??? hope you both have a lovely day. @Terrarian love to see your pics so keep them coming. Lovely morning here. I don’t want to dwell on world events as I am a champion worrier and better that I just concentrate on the here and now which I mainly do anyway as I‘ve said before I don’t even like making plans. My musical tastes for anyone interested: Beatles my first love, George was my favourite. Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, Deep Purple, AC/DC. Pink Floyd. We used to roadie etc for a local PF tribute band. Also like reggae and blues, Joe Bonnamassa. Not keen on much modern stuff but I guess that’s down to age. Have a good day, all.

 

[jazzy]

Them and Genesis where the best bands I ever saw live. There's a great video of them live in Rome on Sky Arts. The Italians know how to enjoy music. Amazing how they know all the words but when you go there on holiday nobody speaks English.

Do you know Fred , for all my eclectic musical taste I'm not really into soul or motown ( Sorry @blue1948 - Mrs J is ) , it's OK but I can't listen to it seriously....but the best gig I ever went to ( and I've been to a lot ) was Earth Wind and Fire in Rotterdam.

I'd dragged Mrs J to the North Sea Jazz festival and the quid pro quo was that I took her to see EWF also playing in Rotterdam.
They were fantastic.

 

[larbert toffee]

Now on a lighter note, I also have a very eclectic and diverse music taste. I like everything from classical, to 80s music groups like the Cure, Depeche Mode, the Police, Duran Duran, B-52s, U2, REM and of course Madonna (because girls just wanna have fun lol.) I absolutely love the Beatles, their free spirit tunes and messages of peace have always resonated with me. I grew up listening to them at home, my dad played their music and classical music too. In the right setting I can enjoy flamenco, jazz and reggae. I am very keen of Latin music because of my Colombian roots. So music such as salsa, vallenato, merengue, cumbia and reggaeton are my favorite Latin genres to dance and do some hip shaking. But I also really enjoy dancing to electronic and house music. My husband and I used to dance a lot when we were younger. There was a time in our lives that we had a lot of DJ friends so we spent a good amount of time during our 20s at dance clubs and even at some raves ? like I mentioned I like almost all music, I’m not crazy about American country music or rap but I don’t hate them either.

Big fan of The Police and I love Latin Ameri an music, just wish I could dance to it.
Wooed my missus with tickets to see Gloria Estefan in Edinburgh, to this day one of the best gigs I've seen, fantastic live artist and the Miami sound machine we're off the scale.

 

[Barnfred 55]

Do you know Fred , for all my eclectic musical taste I'm not really into soul or motown ( Sorry @blue1948 - Mrs J is ) , it's OK but I can't listen to it seriously....but the best gig I ever went to ( and I've been to a lot ) was Earth Wind and Fire in Rotterdam.

I'd dragged Mrs J to the North Sea Jazz festival and the quid pro quo was that I took her to see EWF also playing in Rotterdam.
They were fantastic.

I absolutely love the disco scene from the late 70s early 80s Jazz. I suppose it reminds me of going to school/church discos in my teens and then going to night clubs. Basically my kopping off days then lol . Love the likes of Candi Staton, Tavares, Rose Royce, Earth Wind and fire, Kool and the Gang, Odyssey, Barry White and especially Chic.

When we used to have house parties back in Liverpool, the whole place would be up dancing when I put the disco play on the ipod. When you've had a few drinks down you it couldn't be helped.

 

[Barnfred 55]

Morning everyone,

Well it isn't good is it , every morning we wake up to another atrocity from the Ukraine.

Today is Mrs Js birthday so we are having a day out at the Forest of Bowland with a bit of antique shopping in Clitheroe and lunch in a Mexican.

Well it seems that everyone on here is accepting that we should talk about the invasion now so here's my take.

Putin is leading his country and the World down a very dark path and I fear a path of no return. He only understands 1 thing and that is force and power in return.

We all say he had to be stopped but how. If sanctions are going to work ( and pure economic sanctions have never worked in this situation in the past ) then it will take years .

In that time Putin will destroy an independent country and kill hundreds and thousands of totally innocent people.

Unchecked he will look to pick off the next non NATO country probably Moldova ,perhaps he will look to the North.

No one wants another World War and the terrible threat of nuclear war but history tells us that unless we stand up to this madman now the cconsequences could be even worse in the future.

We must stop the slaughter in Ukraine.

And to think.that some Evertonians are complaining that Usmanov / USM have been sanctioned and the implications for Everton. Against the background of his mate Putin being the butcher of Europe it is beyond me. If you sleep with dogs , you get fleas. Everton will have to accept the price for taking dirty money.

@Sassy Colombian delighted to hear that the job is going well and that you are sorting your work life balance.

I will PM you some photos of my garden ( don't want to clogg up this thread and bore Fred).

Great to hear everyone's musical journey and tastes.

When I was young the only thing I used to listen to was the Beatles , and I still love them now. Paul was always my favourite of the Fab 4. I still regularly play Beatles , Wings and Macca .

Like Fred I was into Tangerine Dream, Kraftwerk , Wakeman, Mike Oldfield , Jean Michel Jarre and Camel. Used to love a bit of prog rock!

I've always liked melodic pop like Joan Armatrding , Simon and Garfunkel, Steely Dan , Fleetwood Mac etc.

In the 80/90s I liked punk and then electronics similar to @anjelikaferrett.

Again a few outliers , for instance I am a huge Kate Bush fan , I have every album and think that she's a genius.

In the 90s I started to get into jazz in a big way. I love jazz from the classical priod of 1950 to 1964 , particularly Miles Davis . I think ( at Mrs Js last count!) I have about 2000 jazz cds!

I like some classical music ( an old schoolmate is the leader of the Seville Orchestra) but not opera or choral.

@Sassy Colombian I am also into a lot of Latin and World music. Have you listened to Bebel Gilberto ( daughter of Astrud who sang on The Girl from Ipanema with Stan Getz) , check out Tanto Tempo. Also you might like Ceu another Brazilian female singer.

@Terrarian I love seeing those photos of Daisy , keep them coming.

Oh , we got a football match tonight. Good luck to Frank and the boys , we really shouldn't need it.

I hope that everyone has a lovely day. My thoughts are with those brave souls in Ukraine.

Happy Birthday to Mrs J. Hope you have a good day out in the Forest of Bowland. I'm sure there's a place called Gisburn there. We used to see the sign on our way to the Yorkshire Dales and we used to always shout out "Sir Guy of Gisburn" lol

I liked all those groups you mentioned Jazz, and I was a particular fan of Kate Bush. Back in the day I had all her albums on vinyl but only got a couple of her CDs now. A kick Inside and Hounds of Love, my two favourites. Have I ever mentioned she almost a neighbour now.

Big Beatles fan too. The owners of the Cavern Club were my clients and also good friends. Used to often go and see them for a few drinks after work on a Friday and me and Cal got special invitations to see Paul McCartney when he played there. Have you ever been to the Beatles convention at the Adelphi Hotel on August Bank Holiday Sunday? If not, it's well worth a visit Jazz. They have dozens of tribute Beatles bands from all over the world. Some of them are really good.

 

[Barnfred 55]

If you like Jarre. Try Tomita . He's Japanese and very inventive

Don't forget Vangelis. Did you know he used to be in a band with Demis Roussos?