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Michael Keane or Conor Coady

Michael Keane or Conor Coady

  • Michael Keane

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Colonel Getafe said:
Dyche strikes me as the last manager in the world who'd want a ~20 year old kid at center back. Plus if we get relegated, JB will be one of few players we'd get top whack for and my have to/want to be sold.
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Funny enough we seen one play yesterday, Ben Mee was 20 when he first played for Dyche at Burnley, left sided blonde centre back. If Brainthwaite has as good a career as Mee I'd settle for that.
 
Mina is probably on pure talent better than both but he is never really fit and Dyche clearly doesn't think he's an option at this point. I picked Keane because I think he does a bit more of the dirty work, that Brentford game is a perfect example, he was winning challenges and going for headers which Coady just seems loath to do at times.
 

Depends on the way the manager is going to play and what he needs his centre backs to do. Think under Dyche the game plan suits Keane far better than Coady so that’s it really. Horses for courses. Keane will do fine in a system where he gets protection from midfield screen and is defending the edge of his own box, clearing and heading the ball away - he’s obviously far better at those things than Coady. If it was Lampard then Coady would make sense to keep, more comfortable on the ball.
 
Coady for his leadership quality. How many times in recent seasons our backline was screaming for leadership and an influential figure when we are on the back foot defending waves after waves of attack. Keane did nothing to reassure the backline by demanding more focus and intensity. He simple kept quiet, accept the situation and go along with a losing mentality.
 
BigDuncTributeBand said:
Depends on the way the manager is going to play and what he needs his centre backs to do. Think under Dyche the game plan suits Keane far better than Coady so that’s it really. Horses for courses. Keane will do fine in a system where he gets protection from midfield screen and is defending the edge of his own box, clearing and heading the ball away - he’s obviously far better at those things than Coady. If it was Lampard then Coady would make sense to keep, more comfortable on the ball.
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Correct.

Keane's biggest failings come when he's being dragged wide covering space that the full back has left or when he's on a higher line.

In a team that sit as a compact block with fullbacks whos priorities are defending, then he is 10x more comfortable. Perhaps not a long-term solution, but definately feel it's working out for him with Dyche.

For how we are playing, I have to admit i think Keane is probably the better of option than Coady. Doesn't mean he's a better player than Coady, or worse, but the system suits Keane and Tarkowski much, much more.
 
Axlswhk said:
Coady for his leadership quality. How many times in recent seasons our backline was screaming for leadership and an influential figure when we are on the back foot defending waves after waves of attack. Keane did nothing to reassure the backline by demanding more focus and intensity. He simple kept quiet, accept the situation and go along with a losing mentality.
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I think Tarkowski brings that leadership as well to be fair. He's been an excellent signing on a free.

Perhaps having two leaders at CB can be detrimental, if one is leading and hte other is following at least then they're on the same page.
 
andy4efc said:
I think Tarkowski brings that leadership as well to be fair. He's been an excellent signing on a free.

Perhaps having two leaders at CB can be detrimental, if one is leading and hte other is following at least then they're on the same page.
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Tark and Coady transformed the mentality within the squad, we need players demanding work ethic and lead a collective change in culture within the squad. Dyche will not have such an easy task without Coady and tark setting benchmark attitude.

Keane, a senior player, did nothing to change anything since day one and simply go along with a deteriorating culture.
 

Coadys good to have in a dressing room, but in a flat 4 playing this way Keane is looking the better option.

His Villa performance cost him his place, think he'll have fell down the order a bit now, may not sign
 
Neiler said:
We need to decide on four in my opinion, JT, Keane (Dyche favorite) will stay in my opinion. The rest;

Mina - will go, be hugely enabling to get his 120k of the wage bill, hes costing us about 12 mill a season.

Godfrey - a decision to be made - there will be a market for him - i believe Howe is a huge fan - a player i like, had a horrible run of injuries - but played his way into England in his only fit season with us, can cover full back. Decision needs to be made. Headroom in my opinion.

Coady - Stick or twist - 5 mill cost - he will be on a big wage, hitting 30 +. Topped out at this level.

Holgate - costs very little in ammortisation - can cover full back - market for him maybe in the championship. Topped out at this level.

Braintwaite - is he ready for a step up - there will be market for him no doubt. Headroom for improvement in my opinion.

So we loose two from 4, its just choosing your poison.
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It massively depends on whether we stay up or go down IMO.

If we stay up, I'd imagine we'll have Tarkowski, Keane, Godfrey, Branthwaite and NEW CB next season. Bye to Mina, Coady and Holgate.

I like Coady but some of his defending was comical in his last few games. Not been right since the WC as he'd been very good beforehand.
 
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