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Migrant Crisis

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Can I just remind everyone that we operate a general 'no politics' rule here, however we are lenient and let some topics go as people will discuss them nevertheless, if it's in the news.

Basically, can we make sure there's no aggro in here or it will be permanently closed.

Thanks all.
 

Groucho said:
Can I just remind everyone that we operate a general 'no politics' rule here, however we are lenient and let some topics go as people will discuss them nevertheless, if it's in the news.

Basically, can we make sure there's no aggro in here or it will be permanently closed.

Thanks all.
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trying my best lol

must be fun to moderate this...
 

Fresh Prince of Belle Val said:
All people surely means anybody. I want to exclude anybody who can't improve our country. These migrants don't offer anything of worth, there are plenty of Syrians in our country who have come here through the correct channels because they where able to bring a certain skill.
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This ... and I don't think it's unfair to expect such.

I've just finished a year's contract in Iraq for a major Oil Co. We employed several Syrian lads, generally as engineers .. good lads. They were well mannered, hard working, basically very employable. Their families bailed out of Syria many years ago so they had spent their formative lives in neighbouring countries (Lebanon, Turkey, Jordan etc) where they'd been educated and acquired their skill.

There was a time when we considered employing lots of young engineers and went through due process and asked for their input. They were highly resistant to employing fellow Syrians under the age of 30 who had not grown up outside of Syria as they had probably little or no acceptable education, knew only conflict as that's what they had grown-up with and had 'that' mindset. Also they were typically 'work shy'. The same could be said of Iraqi men (the majority of whom are less than 30 y/o anyway). We didn't hire any.

Why would we welcome anyone to the UK who offers nothing but 'risk' and liability ? Don't we have enough already ?
 
oldblue said:
we don't know they are looking to send fighters into Europe though. What is the advantage to them? they are struggling to fight in regions where they have a stronghold. If they were deciding to have some kind of small scale invasion, then why use a route that is this perilous and under scrutiny. If they are a serious threat then they would clearly have more sophisticated means.
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There are a load of reasons.

For a start, blow 100 people up in Baghdad and its two minutes on the news for a day, or couple of days at most. Blow 100 people up in Berlin, Madrid or London and its two weeks of news throughout the Western world and then on every anniversary afterwards; and these people like to be on the news. They also want to encourage anti-Muslim sentiment and actions because it helps funding and recruitment, and fits into their beliefs.
 
neil999 said:
from the guardian

Philippe Douste-Blazy, who advises the UN secretary general on innovative financing for development, told the Guardian’s global development correspondent Sam Jones that it all goes back to poverty.
“The wave was 10cm high two years ago. Now it’s about 40cm high. But for your children, it will be 30 metres high. Why? Because 2 billion people in the world earn less than $1.25 a day.
The difference between now and 20 years ago is that everybody looks at everybody now – it’s the globalisation of the economy and the globalisation of communications: internet, TV, radio. It’s very new.”


interesting, basically people are fed up of poverty, how deep is this gonna go?
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The poverty angle is a good point. When you see rich people it drives a desire in some for more. The problem is it's all relative. Poverty in the UK is not quite the same as poverty in the Sudan. The real issue of course is how to change the situation. China went from being poor country to a rich country. Poor countries can do the same if they want but it doesn't happen overnight and it has to be worked at. The UK today is a totally different place to that at the end of WW2 because we worked at it. Sometimes the poor countries just need a bit of technical and financial help to move forward but Western countries, who have both in abundance, are now very wary of the 'colonial or imperial or racist' stigma and do not want any offer of assistance thrown back in their face, so they just give a bit of money to make everyone feel better and the cycle continues.........
 

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