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Migrant Crisis

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No sure if anyone's posted this yet, but:

"FC Bayern via its youth section plans to establish a “Training camp” for refugees over the coming weeks. Municipal authorities will assume essential organisational tasks. Kids and youths will train at FC Bayern at intervals to be determined later, take German classes, and be provided with meals and football kit.

FC Bayern München AG will additionally donate €1 million from a friendly match to refugee support projects."

http://www.fcbayern.de/en/news/news...cbayern-emergency-aid-for-refugees-030915.php
 
oldblue said:
see answer given... well before you two had time to construct third rate humour. as I have noticed time and again there is an element of the right that can only debate with the arguments in their head.
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Don't go jumping to conclusions, oldie. I'm not right wing, in fact I don't think any particular political leaning does any good. I'll,leave it at that.

I still want you to state what you consider to be an acceptable number of people to be allowed to re-settle in the UK/EU.
 

Groucho said:
I was referring to the Syrian people, and those near.

I don't appreciate being told my point is 'nonsense' thanks.
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Sorry, but you said:

Groucho said:
What I mean is, if innocent folk are in danger, this is no time to worry about paperwork and regulations. That can be done retrospectively.

The vast majority of them not being, y'know, terrorists and that.
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If we were watching people drown whilst filling in forms I would agree with you, but these people are in Europe now, they can easily be supported by EU efforts in camps whilst their situation is sorted out. Setting an example by letting them go where they want, without making any effort to sort them out or make arrangements for their arrival - which is what the implication of your post was - will lead to more disasters, not less.

The ones in the camps in and around Syria can best be helped by properly funding the UNHCR, and by Europe following Cameron's lead by having asylum claims dealt with there, rather than by them paying scum to put their lives at risk.
 
Groucho said:
So is it a bit of misleading reporting going on at present?
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I think it's being over dramatised as the only danger to these people is the act of migration itself. All of the people who drowned or died in lorries etc would probably have still been alive today if they had just stayed put. These people in Calais are in no danger and as I mentioned in an earlier post are in one of the best countries on the planet, but they want more...........
 
tsubaki said:
Sorry, but you said:



If we were watching people drown whilst filling in forms I would agree with you, but these people are in Europe now, they can easily be supported by EU efforts in camps whilst their situation is sorted out. Setting an example by letting them go where they want, without making any effort to sort them out or make arrangements for their arrival - which is what the implication of your post was - will lead to more disasters, not less.

The ones in the camps in and around Syria can best be helped by properly funding the UNHCR, and by Europe following Cameron's lead by having asylum claims dealt with there, rather than by them paying scum to put their lives at risk.
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So the UK should just pass them off for other European countries such as Hungary to deal with?
 

bflefc said:
What about 1 million on the move, attempting to get in? 5 million? 10 million? 50 million?

In your vision of free movement and openness, when would you start to consider applying the brakes?
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seriously, you are all so desperate to make your points that you are arguing with things that haven't been said. The answer couldn't have been clearer. what event do you think will result in a million people on the move? think it would have to be something that means we have a lot more to worry about than whether Nigel Farage is wetting his pants
 
tsubaki said:
Sorry, but you said:



If we were watching people drown whilst filling in forms I would agree with you, but these people are in Europe now, they can easily be supported by EU efforts in camps whilst their situation is sorted out. Setting an example by letting them go where they want, without making any effort to sort them out or make arrangements for their arrival - which is what the implication of your post was - will lead to more disasters, not less.

The ones in the camps in and around Syria can best be helped by properly funding the UNHCR, and by Europe following Cameron's lead by having asylum claims dealt with there, rather than by them paying scum to put their lives at risk.
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Sorry mate, I assumed all the ones the UK was to take in were currently at risk of death in Syria. Those I think we should help.

The ones that are in France, why can't France also help? I know Germany are, but is it necessarily the best thing to simply signpost every single refugee on the planet to the UK? No, that's silly. If Europe is united as they say, then all European nations should help equally.

Us included.
 
LocalNative said:
So the UK should just pass them off for other European countries such as Hungary to deal with?
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No - the EU should urgently get together, work out a solution that looks to deal with those here, those in camps around Syria and sets up a fair and funded scheme to deal with new arrivals. Those refugees affected should wait where they are, be housed and supported and their details and circumstances established whilst the EU does this.
 

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