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Migrant Crisis

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And like I said in my last post, which you have completely ignored, if you are willing to harm your family you do not truly care about them.
and you are accusing people of avoiding the question. let us try one more time and then agree that at least one of us has a closed mind. You have seen a pic of one person. You have reacted to it. You have used that one person to comment on a whole group of people in a very nasty manner. My comparison was simple. are you responsible for the actions of every one who wears an Everton scarf?
 
And like I said in my last post, which you have completely ignored, if you are willing to harm your family you do not truly care about them.
Sometimes people snap and break and hurt those they care about under immense pressure. That doesn't mean they don't care for them, only that they've reached their limit and have lashed out wrongly. That happens in normal life, let alone people who have trekked over hundreds and thousands of miles to try for a life outside of war and destruction.


But even so does he reflect all refugees or indeed most?
I'd say he almost certainly doesn't.

So why do you keep bringing it up as the be all and end all for these refugees.
 

Sorry mate, but what is it you are trying to say........
That it isn't a cut and dry reached Turkey and Europe and all is peachy.

England and Germany and Sweden are seen as the goal because we have strong protection of human rights, they know they'll get a fair go here whereas in Hungary and Turkey, Greece, Bulgaria e.t.c chances are they won't.
 
and you are accusing people of avoiding the question. let us try one more time and then agree that at least one of us has a closed mind. You have seen a pic of one person. You have reacted to it. You have used that one person to comment on a whole group of people in a very nasty manner. My comparison was simple. are you responsible for the actions of every one who wears an Everton scarf?

You're saying I have a closed mind?

That's a very personal and patronising attack, there is no need for it. Please stick to the topic of the migrant crisis and avoid derailing the thread.

I have see pictures and videos of refugees refusing assistance until they arrive in Germany. You still have not answered my point that the refugees do not truly care about the families the are harming.

I'm happy to discuss the topic with you but only if you address what I'm saying and not go off-topic. As for your Everton scarf chat, it isn't making much sense at all. Please try again.
 
That it isn't a cut and dry reached Turkey and Europe and all is peachy.

England and Germany and Sweden are seen as the goal because we have strong protection of human rights, they know they'll get a fair go here whereas in Hungary and Turkey, Greece, Bulgaria e.t.c chances are they won't.

What about the ones in Calais ?.....
 
You're saying I have a closed mind?

That's a very personal and patronising attack, there is no need for it. Please stick to the topic of the migrant crisis and avoid derailing the thread.

I have see pictures and videos of refugees refusing assistance until they arrive in Germany. You still have not answered my point that the refugees do not truly care about the families the are harming.

I'm happy to discuss the topic with you but only if you address what I'm saying and not go off-topic. As for your Everton scarf chat, it isn't making much sense at all. Please try again.
You're out of touch with the reality these people have faced and are facing daily.
 

If Britain, America and the Saudis stopped arming rebel groups and bombing the [Poor language removed] out of the places in these countries there wouldn't be any Wars and the crisis would stop as most of the people fleeing in desperation would happily live in their own countries. End of.
 
If Britain, America and the Saudis stopped arming rebel groups and bombing the [Poor language removed] out of the places in these countries there wouldn't be any Wars and the crisis would stop as most of the people fleeing in desperation would happily live in their own countries. End of.
Sadly this isn't true. The world turns on conflict and people can always find a reason to fight each other.
 
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Sometimes people snap and break and hurt those they care about under immense pressure. That doesn't mean they don't care for them, only that they've reached their limit and have lashed out wrongly. That happens in normal life, let alone people who have trekked over hundreds and thousands of miles to try for a life outside of war and destruction.


But even so does he reflect all refugees or indeed most?
I'd say he almost certainly doesn't.

So why do you keep bringing it up as the be all and end all for these refugees.

Did you watch the video of the refugees refusing food and water?

They all, together, threw the water onto the tracks. At 1:36, you can see a child accept some food from a female officer. The men then come along, shut the windows and tell the police where to go. The male refugees are willing to let their wives and children starve just so they can get to Germany, because Hungary "isn't good enough."

I'm very confident in saying that when all the refugees on that train are acting together, that they reflect all the refugees there.
 

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