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Modern Football Fans & Stats

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I don't know why it's become some prevalent, but it's one of the things about modern football discussion that really winds me up

People pulling out spreadsheets and pie charts to show why a player is good. You have eyes, use them. It's never been easier to find footage of players due to the internet and the amount of football on TV, and that's before you buy a ticket to go watch a game in person

STATS have their place, but the Eye Test is the best way of telling whether a player is any good. Why do you think scouts still go to matches or watch video of players they're thinking of signing? If STATS were all important, they'd sign players based off those alone

STATS tell you something about a footballer, but they don't tell you as much as actually watching them play would

Anyone should just look at the team Koeman put together Klaassen Siggurdson Rooney all had good stats but when combined on a football field couldn’t actually play well together. Koeman has actually stumbled across an ok team back end of 16/17 but that summer mentioned increasing the productivity from midfield so though he could just drop in a certain number of goals by adding Klaassen and Siggurdson.

Just shows theres a lot of intangible factors to it that only the best managers can see and are often nothing to do with stats.
 

I demand a Venn diagram.

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Anyone should just look at the team Koeman put together Klaassen Siggurdson Rooney all had good stats but when combined on a football field couldn’t actually play well together. Koeman has actually stumbled across an ok team back end of 16/17 but that summer mentioned increasing the productivity from midfield so though he could just drop in a certain number of goals by adding Klaassen and Siggurdson.

Just shows theres a lot of intangible factors to it that only the best managers can see and are often nothing to do with stats.

If only he'd looked at the player position stat. That way he may have realised they all played in the same damn one.
 
Anyone should just look at the team Koeman put together Klaassen Siggurdson Rooney all had good stats but when combined on a football field couldn’t actually play well together. Koeman has actually stumbled across an ok team back end of 16/17 but that summer mentioned increasing the productivity from midfield so though he could just drop in a certain number of goals by adding Klaassen and Siggurdson.

Just shows theres a lot of intangible factors to it that only the best managers can see and are often nothing to do with stats.

This is it really, their stats might look great on paper and certain people would happily have us build a team on that basis, but that's a terrible terrible idea.
 

Whatever happened to watching a game and coming up with an opinion based on what you saw with your own eyes?

It's been mentioned in other threads but there seems to be a huge emphasis on people using random stats to demonstrate why we should or shouldn't sign a player when for the most part the stats used are garbage.

If we could stop using pointless stats as the sole basis as to the pros and cons of a player that would be great. Surely the 4 hours you spent compiling stats and making graphs would have been better spent climbing off your stained bed sheets, having a shower and putting some effort into forming meaningful relationships.
You are one of the worst posters on this forum according to the Gotmrkt website based on spaces in posts and pictures of goths.
 

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