Modern Football Fans & Stats

[Bungle]

@Bungle on a fishing frenzy this week, catching plenty.

It's a genuine point mate, tell me you don't read a post like this and want to rip your eyeballs out? You'd think we were looking at some conference level player based on that, but it's Andre Gomes. See what I mean?

I'm so bored with this discussion, but here's a quick one:

Defensive
5th worst in the PL in being dribbled past per game.
3rd in fouls per game.
9th on the team in tackles per game.
11th on the team in interceptions per game.
10th on the team in blocks per 90.
9th on the team in blocked passes per 90.

Offensive
18th on the team in Key Passes per game.
17th on the team in chances created per 90.
15th on the team in xA per 90.
11th on the team in xG per 90.
6th on the team in forward passes per game (under 15).

There ya go. I saw somewhere that he got passed by more than any other player in the league per 90, but I don't have those stats in front of me - at least not yet. Point being, bad defensively, creates little offensively.

I can also craft some useful stats in terms of possession and progressive passing that would demonstrate that he's quite good at helping us keep the ball and build up from the back while in possession. He's obviously fantastic at taking people on the dribble.

But again, if you have any training whatsoever in this game, I cannot imagine you wouldn't come away from this performance this past year thinking it was a mixed bag. But this idea that he's the most creative player since Arteta when Yerry Mina is a more dangerous creator of goals is kind of silly.

 

[blue61]

It’s fish that seriously need to be pulled out of the sea though

Agreed, these statos need putting in their plaice.
here we go.

 

[KaiserEFC]

Agreed, these statos need putting in their plaice.
here we go.

He’s really made a rod for his own back

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

He’s really made a rod for his own back

*Insert fishing pun here*

 

[blue61]

It's a genuine point mate, tell me you don't read a post like this and want to rip your eyeballs out? You'd think we were looking at some conference level player based on that, but it's Andre Gomes. See what I mean?

Couldn't agree more, I was complementing you on your current output.

 

[orly]

Agreed, these statos need putting in their plaice.
here we go.

..... sad to see so many posters so ignorant about the poor fish. I used to have great stats when I was a footballer, but I'm very koi about telling people.

 

[blue61]

..... sad to see so many posters so ignorant about the poor fish. I used to have great stats when I was a footballer, but I'm very koi about telling people.

No need to carp on about it.

 

[alvinh]

Agreed, these statos need putting in their plaice.
here we go.

Easy to say from your lofty perch

 

[sageyefc]

Oh cod not the fish puns again

 

[Moomin]

Lets all be honest now.

The stats are all down to that traitorous nation US of A who done the dirty on England by siding with France and Spain against us. Led by the founding traitor George Washington.

We see talent with our eyes and not numbers on a spreadsheet.

 

[Sinski]

Yeah there are some flatheads in here.

 

[kev]

Games that stop and start and are made up of distinct "events" (cricket, baseball, NFL, even Rugby League at a stretch) lend themselves to statistical analysis. One passage of play is comparable to another and there is a defined start and end and only a limited number of outcomes.

Footer, kick n clap, basketball... not so much. There's too much going on, too many variables and not enough causal relationship between inputs and outputs. There's some amazing statistical work done on baseball and NFL, i'm not enormously interested in either anymore, but I still buy the stats books every year but all attempts to apply a similar model to football are limited by the fluidity between positions and the sheer number of possibilities every second of every game.

Er, Clive.
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Please desist. Thank you.

 

[Eggs]

....i’m old but I accept and welcome the statistical analysis undertaken on players, but that should be balanced with scouting. The stats might actually be a good way of identifying potential targets.

 

[Frang]

I mean I realise it contradicts my own argument but here's some interesting stats

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where do you even find memes like this... ??!!

 

[Frang]

Oh cod not the fish puns again

its just one of those daise