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Move Over Steve Round - I'm the New Tactician !!! -- THT

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It happens every few years - football evolves. Moyes has stuck with a 4-5-1 which is a lot less fluid than the 4-5-1 Barcelona use, which is effectively a 4-3-3. Without the players pushing on intelligently, it becomes a flat and negative formation.

When Everton were in form, the formation worked. However, now that we're not and bereft of confidence, Moyes needs to go back to basics with a 4-4-2. Present an attacking option up front with two designated strikers and have two lines of four for solidarity.

Point is you can't just play it for an hour and say it doesn't work ! I'm all for 451 at man u , chelski etc but against the majority of other sides let's have a go ala Blackpool ! Come on Davie Save Our Season !!
 
Point is you can't just play it for an hour and say it doesn't work ! I'm all for 451 at man u , chelski etc but against the majority of other sides let's have a go ala Blackpool ! Come on Davie Save Our Season !!

Tell that to David "Mr. Hour Mark" Moyes xD

You know what though - I have such faith in the sheer strength of our squad that I feel we can take a game to the "big boys" and come out on top. The squad strength is formidable; the usage of them at the moment sadly isn't.

Look at TXBill's team (one I posted earlier in the thread too) and tell me that, on paper, that side can't push for the top four. I'm not saying I expect a top four finish, but I'm just highlighting just how much we're desperately underachieving right now.
 
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This could be us :(
 
Tell that to David "Mr. Hour Mark" Moyes xD

You know what though - I have such faith in the sheer strength of our squad that I feel we can take a game to the "big boys" and come out on top. The squad strength is formidable; the usage of them at the moment sadly isn't.

Look at TXBill's team (one I posted earlier in the thread too) and tell me that, on paper, that side can't push for the top four. I'm not saying I expect a top four finish, but I'm just highlighting just how much we're desperately underachieving right now.

I can't disagree with you mate ! Let's hope he reads this thread then mate !!
 
I agree, we defo need to do something to change it up as the current lineup isn't working. I think Coleman and Baines would do well in a 3 5 2. Moyes will never go for it though. Like has also been said I don't know why we play so negative against the weaker teams when man for man we could play them off the park without 5 in the middle. Plus the way we defend so deep at times is just unneccessary.
 

I agree, we defo need to do something to change it up as the current lineup isn't working. I think Coleman and Baines would do well in a 3 5 2. Moyes will never go for it though. Like has also been said I don't know why we play so negative against the weaker teams when man for man we could play them off the park without 5 in the middle. Plus the way we defend so deep at times is just unneccessary.


Here here Baz ...
 
THT, do you know anything about Magaye Gueye and why he's not getting a look in? If he was any good, Pienaar behind the front man with him as a left winger wouldn't be a total disaster, if not exactly ideal.
 
THT, do you know anything about Magaye Gueye and why he's not getting a look in? If he was any good, Pienaar behind the front man with him as a left winger wouldn't be a total disaster, if not exactly ideal.

Just don't think he's ready yet. I think it's the defensive side of his Game at the moment. I don't know why he hasn't used him as a striker so far though ? In a 2 he could probably do well, got good pace and a nice left foot! Worth a try at the moment.
 
Just don't think he's ready yet. I think it's the defensive side of his Game at the moment. I don't know why he hasn't used him as a striker so far though ? In a 2 he could probably do well, got good pace and a nice left foot! Worth a try at the moment.

He looked a shoe-in for the first team squad at the least in pre-season, just wondering what happened to him.

I don't think Pienaar is exactly defensive in his play. In fact, I'm struggling to remember a tackle! Could be a thought to have him on the left as an impact player similar to how Coleman has done on the right.
 
He looked a shoe-in for the first team squad at the least in pre-season, just wondering what happened to him.

I don't think Pienaar is exactly defensive in his play. In fact, I'm struggling to remember a tackle! Could be a thought to have him on the left as an impact player similar to how Coleman has done on the right.

Pienaar does work hard though tracking back. He might get a look in now that Cahill has gone to Oz. Moyes will probably play pienaar further forward so Gueye or Bily may get some game time !
 

This is what I posted the other day before the Stoke game on the Stoke fan comes in peace.

The formation i suggest stays pretty standard to what moyes likes, but becomes far more attacking and forces our midfield to attack. The only letdown would be if the wing backs started tracking back too slow but I think you'd be hard pushed to find better people for the position than Coleman and Baines


This game has 0-0 or 1-1 written all over it. Everton seem to love the underdog games, and can pick up a win when the other team is more focused on scoring than shutting down our few attacking options, but when we go to a game with the mindset of attack, the other team's defensive capabilities seem to currently always trump our poor attacking ones.

The catalyst for us turning into being able to register these wins is for the attack to just become more potent, which I feel can be done in several ways. I personally disagree that the Striker should be relied upon to score the goals, and I feel it's Moyes sentiment aswell (he has stated previously that the days of the striker and the 4-4-2 have passed and the game is far more dynamic and less rigid, will dig up quotes later).

The formation and style of player is critical to what we can produce and these are my two preferred formations that will unleash the attacking capabilities of our team.

On the defensive (without the ball)

-----------Howard
Coleman Jags Distin Baines
----------- Felliani
Pienaar* Cahill Arteta Gueye
------------Beckford

With this formation it's basically the standard Moyes formation that we are all used too, more than capable of defensive work but with attacking minds of Coleman, Gueye and Beckford which each of them hold loads of pace really unlock a quick counter attack option for us which we have been lacking. Pienaar as he is on the way out could be changed out with any player capable of playing right wing, keeping in mind you will have the overlap with Coleman and you want a pacey player.

On the Attack (with the ball)

-----------Howard
*--Jags-----------Distin--*
|----------Felliani---------|
Coleman---------------Baines
|---------------------------|
*----------Arteta----------*
----------(Cahill)
--------------v
Pienaar---Beckford----Gueye

With this formation, the intended purpose is to lock the ball in, bombard the goal with the wingers, midfielders and leave the striker in the position to knock the ball in after the shots. Coleman and Baines push up but with the mind they need to be able to track back asap for a counter.

This is very close to our current tactics but the main difference is a focus on pace and ability to get into a better position quicker than the oppositions defence can muster, and also the fact you will be looking more towards your wingers and midfield to score the goals and not have this absurd expectation that one lone striker takes on a minimum of 2 CBs by himself, With Cahill making his trademark late runs into the box.

Once we stop trying to get the passes to the striker and start putting pressure on the keeper with shots and deflections coming from all around, we should really start picking up these lesser teams.
 
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This is what I posted the other day before the Stoke game on the Stoke fan comes in peace.

The formation i suggest stays pretty standard to what moyes likes, but becomes far more attacking and forces our midfield to attack. The only letdown would be if the wing backs started tracking back too slow but I think you'd be hard pushed to find better people for the position than Coleman and Baines

I LIKE this lad .

The Convict Ora-Cula , I'm finding ,.....
 

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