ijjysmith
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LOLZ.
This is the problem with the whole debate mate isn't it it's incredibly subjective . Eddie Howe to the premier league would be clearly a huge risk , his brief career at Burnley wasn't exactly stellar and people talk about risk that would , as I'm sure you know be just off the chart risky . If you consider Eddie Howe a genuine and realistic target for everton then I'd imagine your short list is very lengthy . I think he looks and 'ok' manager but I'm not sure I'd touch him personally for a premier league team .
I don't know as much as many other posters seem to about pereira and he certainly has some ticks in the positive column but again there are plenty of managers who've come to the premier league from overseas and struggled badly. It is a different league over here and I think that's what worries managers , Portugal also isn't the most competitive in Europe is it ?
I think the job of appointing a manager is a far from easy one though and given the risks involved I hope that those involved are thinking long and hard about it .
Elong
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Hahaha I know, okay Martinez didn't have to work with him, that's something I'll concede!
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orly
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Really? According to some sages on here, Mcmanan, Mcarthy, Maloney would all get into that squad.
He's had Valencia, Moses, rodellega, kone, nzogbia - all better than many many members of that squad you just linked.
Someone has said "ah but moyes once finished on 37 points". Yes he did- once. Martinez has actually managed to consistently do poorly with the bizarre excuse that his teams play football the "right way"... Which apparently means scoring less goals than you concede, not winning matches and winning four home games all season.
ijjysmith
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According to eplindex.com :
edit: OH GOD IT'S HUGE
Howard sweeper/goalkepper?!
We don't tend to play rush goalies anymore.
Elong
The fire rises
Valencia is the only player who'd make that team, the others you've named are terrible, Christ, Rodellega? He has a Marcus Bent season and now gets splinters in his arse at Fulham!
Also, never had those players at the same time, so I'm not sure how well you're doing comparing squads here.
According to eplindex.com :
edit: OH GOD IT'S HUGE
Three points on this formation malarkey.
1: I'd have Jags in the centre and Johnny on the right of the three
2: Why are there huge refresher bars either said of the goals???
3: this image is really huge
orly
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Why not compare the Swansea squad that came up last season with the Wigan squad? As in, pre-Laudrup. Not many special players in there either but much, much better than the crap Martinez has produced.
Interesting you say he hasn't had them all at the same time, which is a rubbish argument anyway - but wouldn't that suggest he did a poor job of replacing them then? Or, he couldn't use his tactical "nous" to cover for his squad deficiencies?
And are you telling me nzogbia, at his Wigan peak wasn't more talented than Kilbane? Or Moses a more gifted player than Bent? (Hint- one of them might be playing in the EL final tonight, the other has the distinction of rutting Danielle Lloyd before the rush)
Not doing a good job of selling us Martinez
MartSlinger
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Half of that Swansea squad that came up was put together by Martinez.
Christiffa25
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Martinez has had time to at least you would think build a defense capable of defending. Is he that stubborn or naive to believe his 3 at the back works when no one else really plays it? And that the massive amount of goals conceded could be down to his own tactics?
I seriously don't think Wigan would be going down to the championship if moyes had been in charge there the last 4 yrs. granted they prob wouldn't of won the cup like.....
Didn't want Martinez, then warmed to the idea but gota say I've definately gone off the idea again. Think he needs a move somewhere else first, maybe a Fulham or simlar before he takes on a top 6 side. Too much of a gamble for me I think.
The Porto guy is also a massive gamble tho. It's alot harder in the PL to buy promising players from unknown places and turn them into top players. The compitition is too tough to allow for that time. He would also want to change all the coaching staff and ways of Everton which I don't think is the right route.
Tbf the short list is looking quite unsinspiring IMO.
I seriously don't think Wigan would be going down to the championship if moyes had been in charge there the last 4 yrs. granted they prob wouldn't of won the cup like.....
Didn't want Martinez, then warmed to the idea but gota say I've definately gone off the idea again. Think he needs a move somewhere else first, maybe a Fulham or simlar before he takes on a top 6 side. Too much of a gamble for me I think.
The Porto guy is also a massive gamble tho. It's alot harder in the PL to buy promising players from unknown places and turn them into top players. The compitition is too tough to allow for that time. He would also want to change all the coaching staff and ways of Everton which I don't think is the right route.
Tbf the short list is looking quite unsinspiring IMO.
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Tell me where I want Martinez to manage us again please, I must have missed where I said that part :blink:
Picking out one of two good players to counter an entire team isn't going to work when the rest of the squad is terrible. I think Martinez has done okay with what he has, which is not a great deal at all.
Honestly the club would be better to sell up now and hand over the club to new owners who can bring wedge and can take the heat on the new manager selection process.
The biggest problem now is we have a fractured fan base and lame duck owner who can,t move the fin needle for the club.
I saw O'Keeffe tweeting last night that we should get behind the board with who ever they select pffttttttt. I say the board are not fit for purpose and will shoe horn in the wrong guy and then we have deal with the mess.
I,d rather we sell the club now and then see if we can attract a top manager.
The biggest problem now is we have a fractured fan base and lame duck owner who can,t move the fin needle for the club.
I saw O'Keeffe tweeting last night that we should get behind the board with who ever they select pffttttttt. I say the board are not fit for purpose and will shoe horn in the wrong guy and then we have deal with the mess.
I,d rather we sell the club now and then see if we can attract a top manager.
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