Moyes to sign new 3yr deal

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Nobody saying he is a sh*t manager, losing to them lot and various nobhead tactical decisions have us ALL questioning him. He owes us nothing, football isn't built on loyally, at least not for those inside the game.

The fans are either blindly loyal, or loyally blind.
 
chicoazul said:
We should jib all the name calling, both sides like. The fan base is divided enough thanks to the board, we don't need the manager to cause battle lines to drawn too.

I can see both sides - boss fence sitter me - but at the moment the bigger problem is the board than the manager. With what he's got he's getting us to a reasonably placed finish so he can work well with what he's got. What we have to be careful with is to not be conditioned as some sort of boss Charlton Athletic circa 2003, we're Everton like.

Before jibbing him I'd like to see him given some money. I hate it but that's what the game is now, success is more or less directly attributable to how much resources you've got. He's been hampered but equally well compensated by the board he works for. If we went then the board are left direct in the line of fire and they well know that, hence why they'll pay him the big bucks until someone comes along who matches their valuation. He's the best firewall money can buy for them.

I was getting really pissed off last season with the dour football served up but January came and he was allowed some money to buy new players and it transformed our season. A decent striker and some expansive football. There weren't many teams who deserved to take any points off us with the huge exception of the sh*te. The mid week league game sh*t house team selection made me fume at him like never before like.

Would we better served if he left? We won't know until it happens but it's doubtful under the current board plus you have to factor in the board actually choosing someone who would work as effectively under the same conditions. I doubt they could get that lucky picking another manager as they did when Moyes came in and the condition we were in.

This season will be revealing for manager and board. All this angst on here would be well directed at the ownership of the club as they're the biggest obstacle against us achieving again. Once they're out of the way then Moyes will also be judged if afforded even minimal funds.

All yer mars.
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This.
 
chicoazul said:
We should jib all the name calling, both sides like. The fan base is divided enough thanks to the board, we don't need the manager to cause battle lines to drawn too.

I can see both sides - boss fence sitter me - but at the moment the bigger problem is the board than the manager. With what he's got he's getting us to a reasonably placed finish so he can work well with what he's got. What we have to be careful with is to not be conditioned as some sort of boss Charlton Athletic circa 2003, we're Everton like.

Before jibbing him I'd like to see him given some money. I hate it but that's what the game is now, success is more or less directly attributable to how much resources you've got. He's been hampered but equally well compensated by the board he works for. If we went then the board are left direct in the line of fire and they well know that, hence why they'll pay him the big bucks until someone comes along who matches their valuation. He's the best firewall money can buy for them.

I was getting really pissed off last season with the dour football served up but January came and he was allowed some money to buy new players and it transformed our season. A decent striker and some expansive football. There weren't many teams who deserved to take any points off us with the huge exception of the sh*te. The mid week league game sh*t house team selection made me fume at him like never before like.

Would we better served if he left? We won't know until it happens but it's doubtful under the current board plus you have to factor in the board actually choosing someone who would work as effectively under the same conditions. I doubt they could get that lucky picking another manager as they did when Moyes came in and the condition we were in.

This season will be revealing for manager and board. All this angst on here would be well directed at the ownership of the club as they're the biggest obstacle against us achieving again. Once they're out of the way then Moyes will also be judged if afforded even minimal funds.

All yer mars.
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well said man.
Board!!!!give us some money!& show some passion & ambition.

How rich these board members actually are?
 

bluebottle said:
Does this deal extend to felliani? Or is that less definite? Sorry to keep pestering like.
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your allright mate .theres a certain itk whos judgement and info i respect ,is worried big time over felli, id just like to say the big feller along with in my eyes the best left back in the country ,r both very happy ,BUT
 
Nice one Fox.

It's depressing to think about but I fully expect both Baines and Fellaini to be elsewhere by the end of the transfer window. That way I won't be too heartbroken if and when they do go.
 

The thing with Moyes- when he has had a bit of cash to replenish the squad he has done so to good effect.

I have harped on about it but the midget gems of Arteta-Osman-Pienaar was some very special football at the time- the European nights had us all creaming all over the show.

He has turned players like Arteta, Lescott, Pienaar (even though he was sold for less of his true value) Beckford, McFadden into players that were sold at a profit in some cases- Lescott a huge profit.

In a world where we have to sell to buy there are not many managers that buy players and sell them at a profit to then replenish the squad. With a bit more money I am sure we would be right up in the mix- our squad is full of internationals and some superb individuals.

Moyes bough these players-

Howard, Baines, Jagielka, Heitinga, Distin, Fellaini, Gibson, Coleman, Pienaar, Jelavic. All names that we have been purring over in recent times. Big players in my opinion and I truly think that we are only a couple of names from being right in that mix.

Im glad Moyes is staying- would love him to have some funds to add a couple more gems to be able to play some decent football in front of what the side provides in the way of substance.
 

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