This - sad but true.
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Moyes to Sunderland
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"Like" isn't exactly what I meant by liking this, more "sad but true".
Still hope it gets better like...
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
Cut it whatever way you want mate. He went there to take over the English champions who'd romped the previous season's title race by 11 points.
Ferguson got 89 points in that last season from substantially the same players Moyes had at his disposal. Moyes went there and spent another £68M with no big sales and they ended up 7th on 64 points. It was catastrophic.
Why on earth you'd want to defend that record I dont know. He's gone down in that club's history as a joke and the rest of football were embarrassed for him.
Because it's not so plain is it? There were other factors, and LVG did exactly as bad, if not worse, than Moyes, given the fact he 'strenghtened' the squad.
Also pot calling kettle black with defending an absolute clown and embarrassment of a manager. xx
Sunderland afc
Player Valuation: £8m
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For me we have no fight. Seems we lose games before we even kick off. Not saying it's all his fault but the end of the day the buck stops with the manager.
We must win on Saturday or I'd sack him. Last chance for me this weekend.
For me we have no fight. Seems we lose games before we even kick off. Not saying it's all his fault but the end of the day the buck stops with the manager.
We must win on Saturday or I'd sack him. Last chance for me this weekend.
Kenshin
Player Valuation: £40m
To be perfectly honest with you mate, that is how Everton never really kicked on during his time here. As limited as things were and boy that is a long story, we feared teams before we even got onto the pitch with them. That is why the derby record is so terrible with him, it almost felt after so long that Moyes set his teams out to play Rush Dagliesh and Keegan rather than some of the average players that we lined up against.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
Barnfred 55
Player Valuation: £80m
have you got any "Death" fancy dress costumes mate. Think one of our lads may have a spare one of you ask nicely
Yet, the 6 points for that one place higher cost LVG how much? The FA Cup was in the 2nd year, with his own team. The only reason he even stayed this long is because he has this thing Moyes doesn't - personality - as well as a good background. Also luck - that was such a freak season in it's own right. Re: background though - LVG was a boss manager exactly 5 years before taking charge of Man Utd, winning loads of trophies. By your own logic, he should've won everything in sight, right? Except he was fighting for 4th both years.
Moyes won that fake trophy on his first game as well lol without even making any transfers at that point. Also this - Cleverley, Carrick, Giggs. What a star midfield that was. On the other hand LVG spent £250m to have a midfield of Rooney, Carrick and Fellaini (as the attacking mid/second striker, not Rooney), so I can't really tell which one was actually worse.
Martinez was found out to be a fraud and was our worst manager in recent times. Also relegated Wigan when he won that cup (a record, by the way, as both happened within a week), what a great achievement that was. Phenomenal, some would say. Dave Whelan broke his leg at some point, too, but I don't think we can be sure about that, he's keeping info that close to himself.
Moyes won that fake trophy on his first game as well lol without even making any transfers at that point. Also this - Cleverley, Carrick, Giggs. What a star midfield that was. On the other hand LVG spent £250m to have a midfield of Rooney, Carrick and Fellaini (as the attacking mid/second striker, not Rooney), so I can't really tell which one was actually worse.
Martinez was found out to be a fraud and was our worst manager in recent times. Also relegated Wigan when he won that cup (a record, by the way, as both happened within a week), what a great achievement that was. Phenomenal, some would say. Dave Whelan broke his leg at some point, too, but I don't think we can be sure about that, he's keeping info that close to himself.
hktoffee
Birds of a feather flock together
Yup. I can't believe someone is still w over this clown lol.
Erm....... more "Britishness". Moyesie better watch himself in derry coming out with stuff like that lol
The man has lost the plot.
saying Moyes was poor doesn't make Martinez automatically good...It just says Moyes was poor - and we knew that.
Kenshin
Player Valuation: £40m
I disagree mate. It is far too late now to change it and hope to stay up barring a miracle. Who is out there, right now who can come in and get that team playing good enough to stay up?
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