Moyes to Sunderland

[davek]

I disagree mate. It is far too late now to change it and hope to stay up barring a miracle. Who is out there, right now who can come in and get that team playing good enough to stay up?

Maybe Pearson?

It requires that level of turnaround and he's available.

They have 10 games left. 30 points to play for. It's worth a shot.

I'm staggered they haven't used this break already to ditch Moyes.

 

[UsernameEverton]

He looks a defeated man feel sorry for him but here he was a winner and united totally sucked that out him.

 

[Kenshin]

Maybe Pearson?

It requires that level of turnaround and he's available.

They have 10 games left. 30 points to play for. It's worth a shot.

I'm staggered they haven't used this break already to ditch Moyes.

He has done it before yes, but at a club he had plenty of experience at beforehand. He took them up, he was the manager who got them into a position where they could go up and have a fighting chance of staying up the following year. Pearson was also the manager who up until the turnaround last minute was taking them straight back down and had been 'sacked' just before it. I highly doubt he could just walk into a job and keep a club up just like that, especially one like sunderland's.

Plus the other angle is that what manager could they get now, pearson included, would they want next season in charge? Perhaps they even see moyes as a long term manager to regroup them and rebuild the squad if/when they go down? Perhaps they will have someone in mind and they wouldn't be the right man to keep them up like this?

Maybe they know they are going down already and aren't going to be gambling so much on something they don't believe is possible?

Just a few thoughts on it all.

 

[davek]

He has done it before yes, but at a club he had plenty of experience at beforehand. He took them up, he was the manager who got them into a position where they could go up and have a fighting chance of staying up the following year. Pearson was also the manager who up until the turnaround last minute was taking them straight back down and had been 'sacked' just before it. I highly doubt he could just walk into a job and keep a club up just like that, especially one like sunderland's.

Plus the other angle is that what manager could they get now, pearson included, would they want next season in charge? Perhaps they even see moyes as a long term manager to regroup them and rebuild the squad if/when they go down? Perhaps they will have someone in mind and they wouldn't be the right man to keep them up like this?

Maybe they know they are going down already and aren't going to be gambling so much on something they don't believe is possible?

Just a few thoughts on it all.

There is no way those fans will see Moyes in the light Newcastle fans saw Benitez. Benitez had a few games to save them last season and just couldn't manage it. Moyes has taken them down. He'd be run out of town before being embraced as a possible saviour to get back up.

Pearson: what's the alternative really? Leave the situation as is and let that divvy continue as manager? It's curtains if they do. Pearson is a gamble but it might come off.

 

[NeroCeasar]

There is no way those fans will see Moyes in the light Newcastle fans saw Benitez. Benitez had a few games to save them last season and just couldn't manage it. Moyes has taken them down. He'd be run out of town before being embraced as a possible saviour to get back up.

Pearson: what's the alternative really? Leave the situation as is and let that divvy continue as manager? It's curtains if they do. Pearson is a gamble but it might come off.

Future Everton Manager Karanka is available

 

[Naisy'sCharitableLeanings]

here he was a winner

Checks trophy cabinet...

 

[davek]

“I think Sunderland supporters have been through it all before, and they would turn around tell you that changing manager is not the right way – the club has tried that,” said Moyes. “I think they have seen that it has not worked, and the club has had to look to try something else."

...says David Moyes, rooted to the bottom of the table and 8 points from safety.

I'm astounded those fans up there haven't chased that chancer out of Sunderland beating him with sticks.

Sunderland are like someone who's given up on life and crawled into the gutter to die.

 

[jaycee]

“I think Sunderland supporters have been through it all before, and they would turn around tell you that changing manager is not the right way – the club has tried that,” said Moyes. “I think they have seen that it has not worked, and the club has had to look to try something else."

...says David Moyes, rooted to the bottom of the table and 8 points from safety.

I'm astounded those fans up there haven't chased that chancer out of Sunderland beating him with sticks.

Sunderland are like someone who's given up on life and crawled into the gutter to die.

I think hes killed off the fans up there now davek,hes like a dark cloud blocking the stadium of light,by all accounts he is safe even if they go down so it will be 2 seasons of misery because I doubt he will be making a promotion challenge

 

[Brahford]

A joke who peaked at Everton.

 

[Kenshin]

“I think Sunderland supporters have been through it all before, and they would turn around tell you that changing manager is not the right way – the club has tried that,” said Moyes. “I think they have seen that it has not worked, and the club has had to look to try something else."

...says David Moyes, rooted to the bottom of the table and 8 points from safety.

I'm astounded those fans up there haven't chased that chancer out of Sunderland beating him with sticks.

Sunderland are like someone who's given up on life and crawled into the gutter to die.

To be honest this is the first season they have not sacked their manager and now look like going down after every other relegation being avoided by changing the manager.

Just saying like.

 

[John23]

Like Villa, their squad just hasn't been strengthened in any meaningful way over the past few years which is bound to catch up with you eventually. I don't think it makes a difference who the manager is, they simply don't have the players to compete at PL level anymore. I think they'll struggle in championship next season as well with that squad unless they're sold to someone who's willing to overhaul and invest properly.

 

[davek]

I think hes killed off the fans up there now davek,hes like a dark cloud blocking the stadium of light,by all accounts he is safe even if they go down so it will be 2 seasons of misery because I doubt he will be making a promotion challenge

They make a big error if they think he'll do a Benitez at Sunderland. The situations are incomparable anyway, Moyes is nowhere near the FSW's calibre. But Moyes would more likely see them crash out of the Championship into League One. The feller has the unmistakable smell of loser about him now. The world of football surely now realises that his time here and getting a handful of decent seasons either side of not getting PNE promotion and getting sacked by clubs way too big for him was the aberration.

 

[davek]

To be honest this is the first season they have not sacked their manager and now look like going down after every other relegation being avoided by changing the manager.

Just saying like.

Exactly, it makes no sense whatsoever. Only Sunderland out of the bottom six have retained their manager...and it seems to have given Swansea, Leicester and Palace the impetus to get safe. Even Hull have had a great go at avoiding the drop since they changed manager.

Something strange going on there. The club know they will miss out on a fortune if the take the drop; the supporters probably know they'll be watching Championship football for the next 3/4 seasons at least. And yet nothing stirs. I reckon Moyes has massive support in the media, because any other manager would have been shredded by now and the fans on the war path.

 

[Ihaters]

Like Villa, their squad just hasn't been strengthened in any meaningful way over the past few years which is bound to catch up with you eventually. I don't think it makes a difference who the manager is, they simply don't have the players to compete at PL level anymore. I think they'll struggle in championship next season as well with that squad unless they're sold to someone who's willing to overhaul and invest properly.

The only hope they have really of improvement in the next league down is to use the 40m+ parachute payments purely on players, can't see that happening with their board though tbh.

 

[Gwladysstreetlad]

I know slagging Moyes off and calling him for everything has become the thing to do these days but can we have some perspective please. He gave us our best season of the Premier League era in 2004-05 and I'd actually put 08-09 above the first fluke season under Martinez because not only did we finish fifth but we reached the cup final. Even 07-08 edges third place for our best season since the inception of the Premier League imo. We also need to consider the position we were in before Moyes arrived, lets not forget we looked well on our way to collapsing like Aston Villa have done in the last few years. We would of fallen like a stone and struggled to come back without Moyes. I'm not defending his faults, he used to infuriate me with his predictable and often negative tactics and I wanted him gone for over three years before he finally went. That being said it shouldn't detract from the fact that he was a good manager for us for the majority of his time here, built two good sides and brought players in that still play for us today almost four years after he left the club.