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MOYES, YOU ARE OUT OF ORDER

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I think it is naieve to say that David Moyes has had no input into any bid that Utd make for a player.
He has effectively been their manager for six weeks now,although we have been paying his salary.

I cannot help but feel that there is an awful lot more to this story than has been revealed, that is if there is any truth in the story at all.

David Moyes and Bill Kenwright have worked closely together for nearly a dozen years. They bought and sold players together and each stood solidly behind the other whenever they were in trouble.
They had at least a couple of conversations that we know of while Moyes was negotiating his Utd contract.Those conversations were probably not about whay curtains Moyes wanted in his new office or the selling price of Magaye Gueye.
Baines and Fellaini will have been mentioned and each man will know where the other stood. Both men know the character of Baines and both know that he will not rock the boat and leave it to the clubs to sort out his future.Making a bid that simply will not be accepted and could offend his friends at Everton would be a very stupid thing to do if he wanted to sign a player from them. I cannot help but feel that maybe this is an old story becoming public now,I wonder if Moyes tried to sign Baines at those meetings and it was rejected then.
 
Again, as pointed out many times, it's the CLUB going after a talented player, hence no media or club fap-fest over breach of contracts from Moyes etc etc.

Why make a bid midweek when the manager is no officially in charge? Its because he's got no say in what the club want to do. Baines has already been a target from last season, they're just carrying on. Don't need Moyes to tell them to stop, go, or indeed wait. He's also not going to tell them to not bother as Baines is a quality player.

Heard it all now.

A bid has gone in for the feller's former player and he has **** all to do with it.

Do me a favour.
 
I don't get what everyone is getting so worked up about.

So what if Utd put in a low bid for Baines, we won't accept it. If they put in a big enough bid we might accept it.

I think the bid is just being used as a reason for people to vent some negative feelings towards Moyes\Kenwright.

Can anyone really say that if they were in Moyes' position they wouldn't try buying Baines out of honour and respect for Everton? It's business.

I wouldn't mind but half the forum complainers and anti Moyes\Kenwright\everything that moves brigade, always complain about loyalty to the club but nearly always show little patience\loyalty to any of the clubs players after less than a handful of below par performances.

Yes mate, with 100% certainty I could tell you that if was Moyes and I worked for a club and their fans for 11 years (and I really did mean that they were a special club when leaving), I'd have have told whatever bean-counter United hire to forward bids that he wasn't to insult that club or its fantastic fanbase that'd been so loyal to me by either a) putting a bid in when it was asked of me not to; and b ) if I did have the audacity to raid them, putting a ten bob insult down as an opening gambit.
 
Heard it all now.

A bid has gone in for the feller's former player and he has **** all to do with it.

Do me a favour.

Of course he knows about it, I never said that. I said that he's got no say in when, how much, and what they want to do in getting him.

Don't you think its an odd time to make a bid? Especially when Moyes' isnt officially in charge till Monday? Why not wait, like you said about Martinez.
 
I don't get what everyone is getting so worked up about.

So what if Utd put in a low bid for Baines, we won't accept it. If they put in a big enough bid we might accept it.

I think the bid is just being used as a reason for people to vent some negative feelings towards Moyes\Kenwright.

Can anyone really say that if they were in Moyes' position they wouldn't try buying Baines out of honour and respect for Everton? It's business.

I wouldn't mind but half the forum complainers and anti Moyes\Kenwright\everything that moves brigade, always complain about loyalty to the club but nearly always show little patience\loyalty to any of the clubs players after less than a handful of below par performances.

Have to agree.
 

Of course he knows about it, I never said that. I said that he's got no say in when, how much, and what they want to do in getting him.

Don't you think its an odd time to make a bid? Especially when Moyes' isnt officially in charge till Monday? Why not wait, like you said about Martinez.

Insensitive, not odd.
 
Good luck Moeysie. Best wishes from all at Goodison Park and Evertonians near and far.

Mr DaveK, surely you are joking! That is tantamount to wishing Man U all the best. I do not wish him well at all like some others on here. I believe Moyes knew before Xmas that this was in the offing, Mourinho seemed to know that Ferguson was chucking his hand in.

IMO Moyes quietly should have informed BK way back not wating until a few weeks to the season end. BK was certainly unaware of Moyes leaving that is clear. How else can the repeated delay in sorting a new contract out be satisfactorily explained, most managers are only to keen to get a new contract sorted.

Moyes screwed the club, let us be honest on that.
 
Mr DaveK, surely you are joking! That is tantamount to wishing Man U all the best. I do not wish him well at all like some others on here. I believe Moyes knew before Xmas that this was in the offing, Mourinho seemed to know that Ferguson was chucking his hand in.

IMO Moyes quietly should have informed BK way back not wating until a few weeks to the season end. BK was certainly unaware of Moyes leaving that is clear. How else can the repeated delay in sorting a new contract out be satisfactorily explained, most managers are only to keen to get a new contract sorted.

Moyes screwed the club, let us be honest on that.

mate, make no mistake Dave was joking.
 
not even arsed about him making a bid for baines just hope we don't let him go on the cheap would like atleast 20mil for him but can't see utd paying that much
 

Didn't they pay 30 mill for Ferdinand ?

17 mill for Phil Jones

15 mill for Andesron

17 mill Owen Hargreaves

18.6 for Carrick


I'd say come back when it starts with a little duck, or maybe a pair of 'em Quack Quack. Leighton Baines is on his way to becoming the best left back in the world.


as for the Original Point, Yeah you're out of Order Moylez u Ginger Tw@, you couldn't even be arsed asking them to wait until after you was out of Evertons employ before offering a derisory amount. I'd offer the lad to all the big guns now, lets see if Baines fancies staying in the drizzly northwest when the Big Guns of Europe get involved ?
 
I can't see what the fuss is about. The only thing bothering me is the measly opening offer. He's worth at least £6m more. So if he does go for £18m I won't be too disheartened, he's 28 at the peak of his career and will most likely never be worth that much again.

Aslong as all the money goes directly to Martinez along with potentially £22m from Fellaini we have two top earners of the books and at least a £40m war chest. Yes we'll be weakened substantially but its up to Martinez to bring the right ppl in!
 
If we sell Baines it'll be for decent money, the club won't be "royally shafted".

Stop crying and man up, Moyes has gone. We're Everton, not a bunch of mewling wimps.

Exactly. It's about respect. We should tell United to get to ****, drag down all that "In Moyes we trust ****e" from around Goodison and tell the world what the ginger bedwetter is really like.

I think his comments were directed at you mate. Way to miss a point. Like he said, Moyes has gone, stop moaning, stop the bitterness and stop dragging up the past. And as it's now after midnight you can rest your worried head on your pillow tonight knowing that he is no longer Everton manager even though he hasn't been for about 6 weeks now.
 
I think his comments were directed at you mate. Way to miss a point. Like he said, Moyes has gone, stop moaning, stop the bitterness and stop dragging up the past. And as it's now after midnight you can rest your worried head on your pillow tonight knowing that he is no longer Everton manager even though he hasn't been for about 6 weeks now.

No you're wrong again. The point was lost on the poster before. A strong, proud club doesn't take this level of crap. I'm not crying. I'm not upset. I'm mad and angry as to what's gone on with Moyes. Whether midnight or not the man hasn't got a shred of integrity and I hope Goodison doesn't even so much as give him a single clap when he returns with United
 
No you're wrong again. The point was lost on the poster before. A strong, proud club doesn't take this level of crap. I'm not crying. I'm not upset. I'm mad and angry as to what's gone on with Moyes. Whether midnight or not the man hasn't got a shred of integrity and I hope Goodison doesn't even so much as give him a single clap when he returns with United

No YOU are wrong pal. You are the person incessantly whingeing about being shafted and bringing up Moyes. Like he said, Moyes has gone and it's about time you moved on. Your level of bitterness is reprehensible.
 

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