2023/24 Nathan Patterson

[Marius57]

If I was him I would be out as soon as possible, just wasting his career here, Dyche will never play him again, something personal there.
Mykolenko was pants for a while but Dyche seemed to help him and given game time he is a much improved player, he clearly doesn’t see Patterson in the same way.

Myko by his own accounts was injured most of last season and trying to play through it. I’d be wary of attributing his improvement as anything other than overcoming that injury.

 

[JimmyK]

He's been managed absolutely appallingly by Dyche.

I think we can only really say that if he goes on to be really good somewhere else can't we? At the moment he's a player who has failed to really impress at any point in his career under any manager, if we sell him in the summer and he goes on to be a top class performer for years then we've clearly mishandled him but if he doesn't then how can we say it's been wrong not to play him? I don't know which way it will go but I've seen nothing from Patterson to make me believe he's being managed particularly badly.

 

[AirMo]

I think we can only really say that if he goes on to be really good somewhere else can't we? At the moment he's a player who has failed to really impress at any point in his career under any manager, if we sell him in the summer and he goes on to be a top class performer for years then we've clearly mishandled him but if he doesn't then how can we say it's been wrong not to play him? I don't know which way it will go but I've seen nothing from Patterson to make me believe he's being managed particularly badly.

He looked good here playing under Lampard and only went out the team because of injury. In fact he’s been part of some of our decent performances this season I.e Villa.

I think we can absolutely say he has been mismanaged because Dyche should have been getting him into the position of playing like that in every game.

Even if you thought he wasn’t good enough to play here yet (despite showing he was) then say he should have had a plan for playing and improving him, even if that was a loan like Branthwaite did going to PSV.

What he has done is sat him on the bench, let it develop into some obvious personal problems between them and freeze him out rather than deal with it like a professional manager properly should, and let his game regress in the process since he couldn’t coach a bloody fly to land on [Poor language removed].

Patterson isn’t the only one, Chermiti, Dobbin etc, have all wasted a year here as well.

 

[JimmyK]

He looked good here playing under Lampard and only went out the team because of injury. In fact he’s been part of some of our decent performances this season I.e Villa.

I think we can absolutely say he has been mismanaged because Dyche should have been getting him into the position of playing like that in every game.

Even if you thought he wasn’t good enough to play here yet (despite showing he was) then say he should have had a plan for playing and improving him, even if that was a loan like Branthwaite did going to PSV.

What he has done is sat him on the bench, let it develop into some obvious personal problems between them and freeze him out rather than deal with it like a professional manager properly should, and let his game regress in the process since he couldn’t coach a bloody fly to land on [Poor language removed].

Patterson isn’t the only one, Chermiti, Dobbin etc, have all wasted a year here as well.

You can't just make players improve though that's such a nonsense argument players will be as good as their talent lets them be it's not Football Manager where you unlock some secret potential by playing a certain amount of minutes if a player hasn't got the tools then they haven't got the tools I've lost count of the amount of players who our fans have cried about not being used enough and about 0.1% of them have proved the club wrong its just boring trying to make every single a negative regardless of whether theres any evidence.

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

I honestly can't remember a time when he was truly the drizzling

Young, by comparison, has had many

Yes, he's had games where he wasn't great, but that's going to happen sometimes. There's definitely talent there

 

[Kendal]

You cannot treat young international players the way we do it’s scandalous the way Patterson has been treated by our manager. I doubt if the manager has been near an international Squad. There is a lot to come from Patterson but sadly not with this management team.

 

[Papa Shango]

I honestly can't remember a time when he was truly the drizzling

Young, by comparison, has had many

Yes, he's had games where he wasn't great, but that's going to happen sometimes. There's definitely talent there

Honestly I can't remember him doing anything at all.

He just tends to be there when he plays. I don't feel like he has done anything wrong but he has not grabbed what opportunities he has had either.

 

[JimmyK]

You cannot treat young international players the way we do it’s scandalous the way Patterson has been treated by our manager. I doubt if the manager has been near an international Squad. There is a lot to come from Patterson but sadly not with this management team.

He's an international for Scotland only about 5 of their squad play top level football lets not get carried away!

 

[AirMo]

You can't just make players improve though that's such a nonsense argument players will be as good as their talent lets them be it's not Football Manager where you unlock some secret potential by playing a certain amount of minutes if a player hasn't got the tools then they haven't got the tools I've lost count of the amount of players who our fans have cried about not being used enough and about 0.1% of them have proved the club wrong its just boring trying to make every single a negative regardless of whether theres any evidence.

It’s his job to make players improve, it called coaching.

My point wasn’t even that though, he’s performed at a decent level for us in plenty of games, most frequently during the run he had under Lampard. It absolutely is Dyche’s job to give him the tools to stay at that level, one he already achieved, and then help him to push on if he can.

Tbh the whole team has regressed in their individual performances, not just Patterson. That is absolutely on Dyche.

 

[JimmyK]

It’s his job to make players improve, it called coaching.

My point wasn’t even that though, he’s performed at a decent level for us in plenty of games, most frequently during the run he had under Lampard. It absolutely is Dyche’s job to give him the tools to stay at that level, one he already achieved, and then help him to push on if he can.

Tbh the whole team has regressed in their individual performances, not just Patterson. That is absolutely on Dyche.

Making him better would be good management but not making him better doesn't mean he's being managed appallingly thats just yet another example of people not being able to take a normal position on something and everything having to be the best thing ever or the worst thing ever.

 

[Carlito]

I honestly can't remember a time when he was truly the drizzling

Young, by comparison, has had many

Yes, he's had games where he wasn't great, but that's going to happen sometimes. There's definitely talent there

The only time he properly got the run around was from Mitoma, who is very good, but then he rebounded and played him well in the return fixture.

I can't say I've seen a lot in him, but it's not like he's ever disgraced himself.

 

[maccavennie]

I think we can only really say that if he goes on to be really good somewhere else can't we? At the moment he's a player who has failed to really impress at any point in his career under any manager, if we sell him in the summer and he goes on to be a top class performer for years then we've clearly mishandled him but if he doesn't then how can we say it's been wrong not to play him? I don't know which way it will go but I've seen nothing from Patterson to make me believe he's being managed particularly badly.

Played decent against Villa away in the cup, dropped. Played decent with a great assist against Sheffield Utd dropped.

He's been the fall guy every single time. He's been no worse than Godfrey, Coleman, Young in that position and rhe upturn is, he's younger and offers a little more going forward.

I think it's pretty obvious he's been mismanaged tbh

 

[AirMo]

Making him better would be good management but not making him better doesn't mean he's being managed appallingly thats just yet another example of people not being able to take a normal position on something and everything having to be the best thing ever or the worst thing ever.

What makes it appalling management is that he didn’t do anything with him (or the others), if they aren’t good enough the send them on loan, if they are good enough then give them game time.

Nobody develops sitting on a bench, that is why it’s bad management, even if it’s not with us, it’s our job to see all our players play and improve, not sit and learn nothing or do nothing for a year.

 

[JimmyK]

Played decent against Villa away in the cup, dropped. Played decent with a great assist against Sheffield Utd dropped.

He's been the fall guy every single time. He's been no worse than Godfrey, Coleman, Young in that position and rhe upturn is, he's younger and offers a little more going forward.

I think it's pretty obvious he's been mismanaged tbh

Like I said i've heard it said about so many players that they're being mismanaged but then nothing in the career suggests it was the case it's just very easy to pretend that the players who aren't playing are much better than the ones who are theres nothing more to it than that.

 

[maccavennie]

Like I said i've heard it said about so many players that they're being mismanaged but then nothing in the career suggests it was the case it's just very easy to pretend that the players who aren't playing are much better than the ones who are theres nothing more to it than that.

Sound then mate, no player has ever been mismanaged in their career because they go on to prove they're just crap.

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