Patterson had loads of game time up until the end of January now he's fallen down the pecking order and not getting a game there was no need to loan him at the start of the season he played in 25 of our first 29 games despite everyone wanting to act like he's been Lord Lucan since August.
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No players can be mismanaged and Patterson might be one thats why I said we'll see in the future my point is its hard to say that now because theres not a lot of evidence that he should be getting more chances than he is you can make an argument for it but its not exactly blatant thats alls i'm saying.
Something’s definitely not right as despite any misgivings about Dyche, Kieran Trippier can’t speak highly enough about him.
He’s not a defensive full back by any stretch, so Dyche can clearly cultivate / coach an attacking fullback (despite indications to the contrary with us).
He’s not a defensive full back by any stretch, so Dyche can clearly cultivate / coach an attacking fullback (despite indications to the contrary with us).
He is second choice for Scotland. Played the last few games as Hickey has been injured.
Quite clear we need to get the Everton Manager and the Scotland manager to the Hague for the crimes of holding back the new Cafu.
Zatara
Player Valuation: £100m
Patterson has earned his place. If nothing else hes been better than all other options.
What "previous managers" didnt rate him as you claim? Lampard played him as has his Scottish manager. At Rangers he also played when their captain was out.
Such a strange narrative from you.
…..I had it in mind Lampard wasn’t keen and even picked Kenny ahead of him but I’ve probably got that wrong.
Whether he has ‘earned his place’ is a moot point, a matter of opinion but we’ve been around the block and back on that one.
(Did you suggest we go for the lad who played LB for Newcastle last night? Somebody on here did, and last night confirmed to me how ordinary he is. He runs like he’s got a bag of spanners in his shorts.)
No you're right Lampard started him 14 times in 44 games and Dyche has started him 17 times in 49 games so no difference really in how much anyone has seen in him but Dyche is ruining his career he'd be the best right back in the league if only someone would play him.
DuncanPatterson
Player Valuation: £2.5m
The point is that he's not seemed any worse than any of the other options that Dyche has played in the position and he has more potential to improve if played
Not sure what's going on with him and Dyche but Nathan Patterson seems to have dropped right down the pecking order behind Godfrey, Young, and Seamus. Shame really.
I don’t know if that is the point that I’m actually talking about to be honest it seems like a totally different point to me. Anyway the first part I agree with he hasn’t really been any worse I’ve said before I don’t think he’s terrible or a liability or anything I would be happy to see him start on Saturday. The second part I think is only true if you work on the basis that everyone young naturally has potential which I don’t. Managers and their staff should be able to tell whether a player has what it takes and people don’t seem to have been totally sure with Patterson so far just being 22 doesn’t mean he’s going to turn into a good player.
No, not the best right back in the league. But, whether he is played or not, he is a far better right back than the 4th choice centre back that Dyche is currently picking ahead of him. Godfrey is a very limited centre back totally out of his depth at right back. In much the same way as Dyche is totally out of his depth as Everton manager.
Marius57
Player Valuation: £60m
When Lampard first came in (just after Patterson had signed) he chose our more established players in Kenny but mainly Coleman.
At the start of last season, Patterson started the season as our RB and only got dropped when he got injured when Coleman came in. When Patterson was fit, he came back into the team before he got injured again.
Lampard last season, favoured Patterson but he got a couple of injuries. Lampards first half season with us he favoured experience.
It’s a myth being peddled on here that all of pattersons previous managers didn’t rate him.
DuncanPatterson
Player Valuation: £2.5m
More potential
More potential to improve in the position than a couple of players who are coming on for 40 and a player who's being played out of position
….its fine ‘hoping’ he improves, but Dyche doesn’t have wiggle room to see if that happens. Points are valuable and he goes with defenders he trusts most.
But that potential is only useful if it’s potential to become a good player for us in the future that’s what I’m trying to say. If he has the potential to be better than Coleman and young were at their best then that’s great but just having the potential to get a bit better than he is now isn’t enough of an upside to be factored in. What it comes down to is I haven’t seen much in him to get excited about and some people apparently have that’s all.
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