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No one died at Lansdowne Road in 1995. 39 people were killed in the Heysel Disaster, yet you seem to be more worried about the Landowne Road incident. Again another long winded post full of bs from you, for the third time on this thread. You are a nasty disgusting troll, and you have zero credibility on this forum. The only one being toxic here is you, for refusing to condemn the Liverpool fans who murdered 39 Juventus fans. That's not me being toxic either, that's the truth.
He's trolling clearly a RS but they've been condemned and condemned themselves. It doesn't sit right with me when people use Heysel as a stick to beat that lot with. Kick offs like that happened up and down this country every single week back then (probably worse actual violence), them [Poor language removed] ran riot and a wall collapsed as a result. An absolute tragedy that does seem to be more forgotten than it should but people using it as a dig to throw is a bit of a [Poor language removed] in my book. Might have my sensible hat on there but we've all got reds (people from the city) in our families/mates group who shouldn't be tarnished with that brush. 39 people died. It's about them not some rivalry with a gang of gobshites. The ban was pathetic and other teams shouldn't have suffered as a result, us in particular given where we were back then and how boss our side was but let's face it, that could have been any team. You support rangers for crying out loud whose fans are well renowned for being the biggest scumbags in british football even worse than the other lot.
 
He's trolling clearly a RS but they've been condemned and condemned themselves. It doesn't sit right with me when people use Heysel as a stick to beat that lot with. Kick offs like that happened up and down this country every single week back then (probably worse actual violence), them [Poor language removed] ran riot and a wall collapsed as a result. An absolute tragedy that does seem to be more forgotten than it should but people using it as a dig to throw is a bit of a [Poor language removed] in my book. Might have my sensible hat on there but we've all got reds (people from the city) in our families/mates group who shouldn't be tarnished with that brush. 39 people died. It's about them not some rivalry with a gang of gobshites. The ban was pathetic and other teams shouldn't have suffered as a result, us in particular given where we were back then and how boss our side was but let's face it, that could have been any team. You support rangers for crying out loud whose fans are well renowned for being the biggest scumbags in british football even worse than the other lot.
It doesn't sit right how that lot swept it under the carpet.
That lot found the munich chants funny (I can assure you,older reds and blues hated that reference to a great team of players),but when they, man utd fans sung murderers, it overstepped their line.
Two wrongs never make a right, its unfortunate that a disaster upon themselves, made them rethink their idea of humour.
 
It doesn't sit right how that lot swept it under the carpet.
That lot found the munich chants funny (I can assure you,older reds and blues hated that reference to a great team of players),but when they, man utd fans sung murderers, it overstepped their line.
Two wrongs never make a right, its unfortunate that a disaster upon themselves, made them rethink their idea of humour.
Oh absolutely mate I agree they are bad hypocrites but I'm talking about our fans here trying to take a moral high-ground when using people dying as a punchline. I couldn't give a toss about them tbh they make their bed and lie in it constantly, It just doesn't sit right with me the constant heysel/murderer shouts. Mind you, not enough to be 'that' arsed about. I was more pissed off reading that clowns post.

I actually heard a group of them singing the munich (runway one) song a couple of years ago after they beat them in town. Thankfully they quickly got shut up.
 
He's trolling clearly a RS but they've been condemned and condemned themselves. It doesn't sit right with me when people use Heysel as a stick to beat that lot with. Kick offs like that happened up and down this country every single week back then (probably worse actual violence), them [Poor language removed] ran riot and a wall collapsed as a result. An absolute tragedy that does seem to be more forgotten than it should but people using it as a dig to throw is a bit of a [Poor language removed] in my book. Might have my sensible hat on there but we've all got reds (people from the city) in our families/mates group who shouldn't be tarnished with that brush. 39 people died. It's about them not some rivalry with a gang of gobshites. The ban was pathetic and other teams shouldn't have suffered as a result, us in particular given where we were back then and how boss our side was but let's face it, that could have been any team. You support rangers for crying out loud whose fans are well renowned for being the biggest scumbags in british football even worse than the other lot.
Im not saying all reds are murderers like. My best friend in school was one. Im only an about the people responsible for what happened in Heysel. People defending the actions of them, hold no truck with me. Anyone involved in that sort of thing, are scum as well in my eyes. Im not getting into the whole Rangers thing. Neither Rangers and Celtic have what happened that night on their consciousness. The sad truth is that lfc response and handling of the tragedy, has been and continues to be totally and utterly inadequate.
 
Im not saying all reds are murderers like. My best friend in school was one. Im only an about the people responsible for what happened in Heysel. People defending the actions of them, hold no truck with me. Anyone involved in that sort of thing, are scum as well in my eyes. Im not getting into the whole Rangers thing. Neither Rangers and Celtic have what happened that night on their consciousness. The sad truth is that lfc responce and handling of the tragedy, has been and continues to be totally and utterly inadequate.
Can't believe I agree with you. Can't see where anyone has defended them though? Although I didn't read more than a few lines of that farts post. I was drawn to yours like a wolf to meat.
 

Some of the responses (not all) are head in the sand stuff and a whitewashing of history. Hooliganism was rampant throughout the game in England, at club and international level. A game that involved the English meant an increased police presence. The English weren’t alone in this (as the Howard’s Way doc mentions) as it was rife among Italians and some Eastern European nations, but hooliganism especially in the 1970s and 1980s was in the DNA of English football. I’ve mentioned Jack Charlton contrasting the Irish fans with the English when he stated “ours don’t give any trouble”. Those that lived through that era know it, and those who are ignorant of it should educate themselves and read about it. Did Everton have a hooligan firm? Err just one of the most notorious in the country, the head of which was at Heysel (according to his bio).

And what about the crowd in general? In his autobiography Jack Charlton called the Goodison crowd in the 1960s "the worst before which I have ever played … there always seems to be a threatening attitude, a vicious undertone to their remarks."


One of our own:

“As an Everton supporter growing up in the 1980s, I watched what were always “all white” line-ups and endured widespread allegations that the racism found on some sections of the terraces was reflected in the club’s selection policy. I can still painfully recall the despondency and sickness I felt deep in my stomach on the occasion that large numbers of fans around me repeatedly chanted “Everton are white!” during a match at Arsenal in the early 1990s.”


Les Ferdinand in his autobiography:

“The hat-trick at Everton [in 1993] was particularly pleasing because I had always had racial abuse at Everton from their supporters. Doing that to them gave me extra pleasure. There are certain things which stick in your mind during your career as a footballer and the racism at Goodison Park is one of them. Probably the worst thing I have encountered in my professional career has been racist letters coming from supporters – most of which, I have to say, have come from Everton fans. After I scored that hat-trick against them over the Easter period, the letters I got back were disgusting.”

The link above states: “The acquisition of Amokachi hoped to help Everton eradicate their reputation as a racist club”.

From The Guardian in 2000:


From The Telegraph in 2001:


This forum has been great for mental health with a thread devoted to it. What it could also do is ensure any whitewashing of the history of this club is not tolerated, especially given the era we are in with Southgate today having to state the England players will continue to kneel for racial equality despite being jeered by a mindless section their own fans. I’ve lived through tribal BS during the troubles in Northern Ireland, spending most of my life in a catholic ghetto, so have zero tolerance for it. Saying nothing when faced with toxic BS is as bad as those who partake in it.
 
Some of the responses (not all) are head in the sand stuff and a whitewashing of history. Hooliganism was rampant throughout the game in England, at club and international level. A game that involved the English meant an increased police presence. The English weren’t alone in this (as the Howard’s Way doc mentions) as it was rife among Italians and some Eastern European nations, but hooliganism especially in the 1970s and 1980s was in the DNA of English football. I’ve mentioned Jack Charlton contrasting the Irish fans with the English when he stated “ours don’t give any trouble”. Those that lived through that era know it, and those who are ignorant of it should educate themselves and read about it. Did Everton have a hooligan firm? Err just one of the most notorious in the country, the head of which was at Heysel (according to his bio).

And what about the crowd in general? In his autobiography Jack Charlton called the Goodison crowd in the 1960s "the worst before which I have ever played … there always seems to be a threatening attitude, a vicious undertone to their remarks."


One of our own:

“As an Everton supporter growing up in the 1980s, I watched what were always “all white” line-ups and endured widespread allegations that the racism found on some sections of the terraces was reflected in the club’s selection policy. I can still painfully recall the despondency and sickness I felt deep in my stomach on the occasion that large numbers of fans around me repeatedly chanted “Everton are white!” during a match at Arsenal in the early 1990s.”


Les Ferdinand in his autobiography:

“The hat-trick at Everton [in 1993] was particularly pleasing because I had always had racial abuse at Everton from their supporters. Doing that to them gave me extra pleasure. There are certain things which stick in your mind during your career as a footballer and the racism at Goodison Park is one of them. Probably the worst thing I have encountered in my professional career has been racist letters coming from supporters – most of which, I have to say, have come from Everton fans. After I scored that hat-trick against them over the Easter period, the letters I got back were disgusting.”

The link above states: “The acquisition of Amokachi hoped to help Everton eradicate their reputation as a racist club”.

From The Guardian in 2000:


From The Telegraph in 2001:


This forum has been great for mental health with a thread devoted to it. What it could also do is ensure any whitewashing of the history of this club is not tolerated, especially given the era we are in with Southgate today having to state the England players will continue to kneel for racial equality despite being jeered by a mindless section their own fans. I’ve lived through tribal BS during the troubles in Northern Ireland, spending most of my life in a catholic ghetto, so have zero tolerance for it. Saying nothing when faced with toxic BS is as bad as those who partake in it.

Your credibility is in shreds here. I ask in the name of human decency, for you to condemn the liverpool fans, who murdered 39 Juventus fans at Heysel stadium. Why is that so difficult for you?
 
Some of the responses (not all) are head in the sand stuff and a whitewashing of history. Hooliganism was rampant throughout the game in England, at club and international level. A game that involved the English meant an increased police presence. The English weren’t alone in this (as the Howard’s Way doc mentions) as it was rife among Italians and some Eastern European nations, but hooliganism especially in the 1970s and 1980s was in the DNA of English football. I’ve mentioned Jack Charlton contrasting the Irish fans with the English when he stated “ours don’t give any trouble”. Those that lived through that era know it, and those who are ignorant of it should educate themselves and read about it. Did Everton have a hooligan firm? Err just one of the most notorious in the country, the head of which was at Heysel (according to his bio).

And what about the crowd in general? In his autobiography Jack Charlton called the Goodison crowd in the 1960s "the worst before which I have ever played … there always seems to be a threatening attitude, a vicious undertone to their remarks."


One of our own:

“As an Everton supporter growing up in the 1980s, I watched what were always “all white” line-ups and endured widespread allegations that the racism found on some sections of the terraces was reflected in the club’s selection policy. I can still painfully recall the despondency and sickness I felt deep in my stomach on the occasion that large numbers of fans around me repeatedly chanted “Everton are white!” during a match at Arsenal in the early 1990s.”


Les Ferdinand in his autobiography:

“The hat-trick at Everton [in 1993] was particularly pleasing because I had always had racial abuse at Everton from their supporters. Doing that to them gave me extra pleasure. There are certain things which stick in your mind during your career as a footballer and the racism at Goodison Park is one of them. Probably the worst thing I have encountered in my professional career has been racist letters coming from supporters – most of which, I have to say, have come from Everton fans. After I scored that hat-trick against them over the Easter period, the letters I got back were disgusting.”

The link above states: “The acquisition of Amokachi hoped to help Everton eradicate their reputation as a racist club”.

From The Guardian in 2000:


From The Telegraph in 2001:


This forum has been great for mental health with a thread devoted to it. What it could also do is ensure any whitewashing of the history of this club is not tolerated, especially given the era we are in with Southgate today having to state the England players will continue to kneel for racial equality despite being jeered by a mindless section their own fans. I’ve lived through tribal BS during the troubles in Northern Ireland, spending most of my life in a catholic ghetto, so have zero tolerance for it. Saying nothing when faced with toxic BS is as bad as those who partake in it.

You are truly the lowest of them all.

I will ask you one question, what has the horrible racism that infested Everton and all of society, which has never truly gone away, got to do with a set of fans, of an English club, committing manslaughter (that is possibly the truer word for what happened, I don't really know, I suppose at the very least it is the more politically correct term) of fans of an Italian club?

This should not be a discussion of who are worse, Everton and racism, Liverpool, general hooliganism or even the troubles, which again has zero, absolutely zero to do with 39 football fans not returning home.
 
Some of the responses (not all) are head in the sand stuff and a whitewashing of history. Hooliganism was rampant throughout the game in England, at club and international level. A game that involved the English meant an increased police presence. The English weren’t alone in this (as the Howard’s Way doc mentions) as it was rife among Italians and some Eastern European nations, but hooliganism especially in the 1970s and 1980s was in the DNA of English football. I’ve mentioned Jack Charlton contrasting the Irish fans with the English when he stated “ours don’t give any trouble”. Those that lived through that era know it, and those who are ignorant of it should educate themselves and read about it. Did Everton have a hooligan firm? Err just one of the most notorious in the country, the head of which was at Heysel (according to his bio).

And what about the crowd in general? In his autobiography Jack Charlton called the Goodison crowd in the 1960s "the worst before which I have ever played … there always seems to be a threatening attitude, a vicious undertone to their remarks."


One of our own:

“As an Everton supporter growing up in the 1980s, I watched what were always “all white” line-ups and endured widespread allegations that the racism found on some sections of the terraces was reflected in the club’s selection policy. I can still painfully recall the despondency and sickness I felt deep in my stomach on the occasion that large numbers of fans around me repeatedly chanted “Everton are white!” during a match at Arsenal in the early 1990s.”


Les Ferdinand in his autobiography:

“The hat-trick at Everton [in 1993] was particularly pleasing because I had always had racial abuse at Everton from their supporters. Doing that to them gave me extra pleasure. There are certain things which stick in your mind during your career as a footballer and the racism at Goodison Park is one of them. Probably the worst thing I have encountered in my professional career has been racist letters coming from supporters – most of which, I have to say, have come from Everton fans. After I scored that hat-trick against them over the Easter period, the letters I got back were disgusting.”

The link above states: “The acquisition of Amokachi hoped to help Everton eradicate their reputation as a racist club”.

From The Guardian in 2000:


From The Telegraph in 2001:


This forum has been great for mental health with a thread devoted to it. What it could also do is ensure any whitewashing of the history of this club is not tolerated, especially given the era we are in with Southgate today having to state the England players will continue to kneel for racial equality despite being jeered by a mindless section their own fans. I’ve lived through tribal BS during the troubles in Northern Ireland, spending most of my life in a catholic ghetto, so have zero tolerance for it. Saying nothing when faced with toxic BS is as bad as those who partake in it.
hello red bozo u must now die.
 
Hang on a minute . Do we have a rs idiot on here besmirching our club concerning racism and hooliganism ? Most clubs have a minority of fans who fall into those categories. However , a certain club rallied round a racist player , had a young Oldham player in tears . Had a fan arrested for making monkey gestures , which was caught on camera . And as for hooliganism , that same teams supporters were branded the " Worst in Europe " by the football authorities . This thread was created to remember those poor 39 souls who attended a football match, but never made it home . Because the " fans " of the afore-mentioned certain club committed mass murder .

As a sidenote . Two weeks prior to this atrocity being committed , fans of both Everton and rapid Vienna were praised by the Rotterdam police , and other authorities for their behaviour at a football match , which is as it should be .
 

Some of the responses (not all) are head in the sand stuff and a whitewashing of history. Hooliganism was rampant throughout the game in England, at club and international level. A game that involved the English meant an increased police presence. The English weren’t alone in this (as the Howard’s Way doc mentions) as it was rife among Italians and some Eastern European nations, but hooliganism especially in the 1970s and 1980s was in the DNA of English football. I’ve mentioned Jack Charlton contrasting the Irish fans with the English when he stated “ours don’t give any trouble”. Those that lived through that era know it, and those who are ignorant of it should educate themselves and read about it. Did Everton have a hooligan firm? Err just one of the most notorious in the country, the head of which was at Heysel (according to his bio).

And what about the crowd in general? In his autobiography Jack Charlton called the Goodison crowd in the 1960s "the worst before which I have ever played … there always seems to be a threatening attitude, a vicious undertone to their remarks."


One of our own:

“As an Everton supporter growing up in the 1980s, I watched what were always “all white” line-ups and endured widespread allegations that the racism found on some sections of the terraces was reflected in the club’s selection policy. I can still painfully recall the despondency and sickness I felt deep in my stomach on the occasion that large numbers of fans around me repeatedly chanted “Everton are white!” during a match at Arsenal in the early 1990s.”


Les Ferdinand in his autobiography:

“The hat-trick at Everton [in 1993] was particularly pleasing because I had always had racial abuse at Everton from their supporters. Doing that to them gave me extra pleasure. There are certain things which stick in your mind during your career as a footballer and the racism at Goodison Park is one of them. Probably the worst thing I have encountered in my professional career has been racist letters coming from supporters – most of which, I have to say, have come from Everton fans. After I scored that hat-trick against them over the Easter period, the letters I got back were disgusting.”

The link above states: “The acquisition of Amokachi hoped to help Everton eradicate their reputation as a racist club”.

From The Guardian in 2000:


From The Telegraph in 2001:


This forum has been great for mental health with a thread devoted to it. What it could also do is ensure any whitewashing of the history of this club is not tolerated, especially given the era we are in with Southgate today having to state the England players will continue to kneel for racial equality despite being jeered by a mindless section their own fans. I’ve lived through tribal BS during the troubles in Northern Ireland, spending most of my life in a catholic ghetto, so have zero tolerance for it. Saying nothing when faced with toxic BS is as bad as those who partake in it.
This is a memorial thread.
If that is outside your capabilities, find another thread.
 
Correction, the documentary that mentioned the violence committed by English fans (the hooligan element) is in The United Way doc (not the Busby doc). I’m watching it now. It has Hesletine and Kinnock talking about deprivation in working class areas, and football was, quote “the obvious place for the hooligans”. The United doc covers the violence by Man Utd fans in France in the 1970s that saw Man Utd banned from European football. Also covers United fans fighting outside Old Trafford (no doubt with another clubs firm).

Leeds had been banned before Man U (1975, not 1974) for three years after they rioted in Paris at the ‘75 EC final.

By the 1980s with hooliganism and racism rampant (from our club’s perspective. “Everton are white” chants, or the hooligan firm County Road Cutters), a widespeard ban was inevitable and overdue.


My parents marched in civil rights marches in the 1960s in the North of Ireland in a revolt against the oppression inflicted to catholics by the descendants of English/Scots invaders here, an action inspired by the civil rights marches by oppressed black and other non white people in the US. Its been bred into us to have zero tolerance to any form of abuse or oppression to minorities, hence I will speak loudly about the abuses committed by our own club (or any other club). The English took their hooliganism to our doorstep in ‘95 when they came over to Dublin for a friendly and chucked metal bars and chairs at Irish people in the tier below. How the English were not banned from international football after that was a disgrace.
Heard yer Ma was too busy pulling off tramps to attend any marches.
 
Let me get this right.
This is a thread about showing respect to the 39 Juventus fans that were killed at a football match by the actions of RS suppoters.
Then i read through the thread and there is this knob @artetas_biggest_fan , a RS on a Everton forum, blaming the "accident" on English hooliganism.
You lot really have no shame do you.
Always the victim, never your fault is the name you have been branded with by every other football club, for decades of scum behaviour by your club and supporters whilst taking no blame and trying to blame someone else.
Ban this bell @GrandOldTeam .
 
OK now go ahead and tell us why the kop had NF and white pride graffities, why Barnes was abused racially as a Watford player by your fans and how did it come down when he first joned you. Tell us why Suarez, a racist that called Evra "negrito" that translates to "little n***r" got supported as a poor lad that just had a mental issue, by both club and fans. Tell us why Evra got booed. And also tell us why even in modern day you have more racist incidents than us, as stated here. (https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/liverpool-everton-vow-stamp-out-17389096)

Are you gonna answer those questions you rs scum, or not?
Mods if you are not willing to ban this RS scum, please consider making a thread with a title "Which club is more racist" because that is what this pretend Arteta fan wants.
 

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