New Everton Owners: The Friedkin Group

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

No, I said it'd be good enough because safety is the only thing on offer for us.

If Moyes keeps us up with this squad of players he will have performed a miracle mate.

 

[davek]

If Moyes keeps us up with this squad of players he will have performed a miracle mate.

Dyche left us 16th with a game in hand mate, not rock bottom.

The miracle was performed last season...48 points from these beauts.


Let's see how many points Moyes makes with them.

 

[davek]

Safety is all that has ever mattered this season. We've got to give Moyes the same allowance that we give Dyche.

To me, considering our results for 3 years - it was about getting to Bramley Moore as a Premier League team, under new owners and an inevitable rebuild.

Personally I don't want that rebuild under a manager who is renown for downplaying expectations at every turn. He's an absolute pro at it. Years after being here he'd have his club captain and self admitted teachers pet, tell the media 10th is great for a club like Everton. I hope we can start to leg that mentality this summer, after years of "god, just stay up". Ownership, context largely dictated that mindset. It shouldn't from this summer.

After years of pragmatism I'm craving some hope and pinned it on new owners from this summer. Moyes is a pretty big fly in that ointment for me, personally.

I wouldn't be worried about Moyes hanging round beyond this season.

There's nothing that suggests he will be. All his comments have been about this season and getting safe and all his appointments as assistants were available and not in a job.

IMO we'll have a new manager next season.

 

[Eggs]

I wouldn't be worried about Moyes hanging round beyond this season.

There's nothing that suggests he will be. All his comments have been about this season and getting safe and all his appointments as assistants were available and not in a job.

IMO we'll have a new manager next season.

…. as long as he keeps us up, I’d be amazed if Moyes isn’t in charge next season. I’m thinking the new owners will want a period of stability transitioning to BMD.

 

[davek]

…. as long as he keeps us up, I’d be amazed if Moyes isn’t in charge next season. I’m thinking the new owners will want a period of stability transitioning to BMD.

Stability...THESE owners?

Look at their record at Roma and now here.

 

[Eggs]

Stability...THESE owners?

Look at their record at Roma and now here.

…..were Roma fighting regular relegation battles?

They’ll get rid of personnel who ‘fail to deliver’, I think stability will be considered a success for Moyes.

 

[Terrarian]

F me this guy is tedious, why does he have to also have the biggest mouth on the forum. Always the contrarian, he's so transparent aren't you dave.

 

[Drico]

And yet people complain about him dumping us (Kenwright) for Utd. You can't have it both ways - maybe he got fed up carrying the can.

Nobody complained about him leaving. It was the manner of his leaving that some people (i.e., those with a little self-esteem) found disgraceful.

 

[davek]

…..were Roma fighting regular relegation battles?

They’ll get rid of personnel who ‘fail to deliver’, I think stability will be considered a success for Moyes.

Doesn't matter. They are erratic.

 

[Drico]

This is a very very different landscape nowadays in the top flight. Virtually all owners are billionaires. It used to be there was a top 6 and then the rest. But nowadays virtually all premier league teams have at least one or two game changing ability players.
Bournemouth, Brentford, Brighton and forest..who would have believed they would be where they are now?

Well, we wouldn't - because we would have installed a glass ceiling.

 

[Drico]

Safety is all that has ever mattered this season. We've got to give Moyes the same allowance that we give Dyche.

To me, considering our results for 3 years - it was about getting to Bramley Moore as a Premier League team, under new owners and an inevitable rebuild.

Personally I don't want that rebuild under a manager who is renown for downplaying expectations at every turn. He's an absolute pro at it. Years after being here he'd have his club captain and self admitted teachers pet, tell the media 10th is great for a club like Everton. I hope we can start to leg that mentality this summer, after years of "god, just stay up". Ownership, context largely dictated that mindset. It shouldn't from this summer.

After years of pragmatism I'm craving some hope and pinned it on new owners from this summer. Moyes is a pretty big fly in that ointment for me, personally.

Exactly. Moyes represents managed decline. He's brilliant at it. But that's what he does. He manages decline.

Of all the managers in all of the world, if he is the one leading us into that new stadium then that tells us all we need to know about the new owners. What a paucity of imagination and ambition that would be. Sure, bring him back to keep us up. But when that job is done, and the waters have calmed, we need to see ambition backed up by action. The time for "protecting the investment" will have passed. And it will be time to begin exploiting its full potential.

 

[TraffordBlue]

If Moyes keeps us up.and does it with some more good results like the Tottenham one, it would be daft to get rid of him.

We need stability.

Moyes will bring that. Feel that he would be the perfect medium term manager to get us back towards the top half or better before potentially upgrading with things looking more positive with our future.

 

[pfim]

Safety is all that has ever mattered this season. We've got to give Moyes the same allowance that we give Dyche.

To me, considering our results for 3 years - it was about getting to Bramley Moore as a Premier League team, under new owners and an inevitable rebuild.

Personally I don't want that rebuild under a manager who is renown for downplaying expectations at every turn. He's an absolute pro at it. Years after being here he'd have his club captain and self admitted teachers pet, tell the media 10th is great for a club like Everton. I hope we can start to leg that mentality this summer, after years of "god, just stay up". Ownership, context largely dictated that mindset. It shouldn't from this summer.

After years of pragmatism I'm craving some hope and pinned it on new owners from this summer. Moyes is a pretty big fly in that ointment for me, personally.

I don't think he'll have the opportunity to downplay expectations for too long with this group once we are in BMD. And while I tend to agree with you regarding Moyes looking forward, frankly he was not the one setting expectations the first time around.

 

[pejic]

I read yesterday that Friedkin is a 'big game hunter' who likes to shoot lions and elephants. Is this true?

 

[Drico]

If Moyes keeps us up.and does it with some more good results like the Tottenham one, it would be daft to get rid of him.

We need stability.

Moyes will bring that. Feel that he would be the perfect medium term manager to get us back towards the top half or better before potentially upgrading with things looking more positive with our future.

We need to show more ambition than that. This season is about staying up. In the summer, with proper leadership - and money - in place, ambitious, competent owners should be setting sights much higher than "stability". People need to stop seeing the years of abject duysfunction as the very low bar by which we measure these owners.

Stability is fine - in the top eight. That's where we need stability. Anything else is simply delaying - or even missing - the full reset that is urgently needed as soon as we are safe.