New Everton Stadium

[Moomin]

These comments aren't even new from peel

@orly

 

[Moomin]

Not really Finners. That whole development or Peel is massive for them. The Ground is ideal as a bookend to it, as well as a massive attraction to other parties.

But the development is not dependent on a stadium, but would be enhanced by it.

Peel will look at this and hope for a domino effect. I believe three apartment towers are in planning already on the edge of Liverpool waters.

 

[Bullet]

Peel: Everton fans should 'watch this space' on waterside stadium plan
Liverpool Waters owner still in talks with club as Everton prepares to decide on new home

• 05:00, 29 DEC 2016
• Updated20:55, 28 DEC 2016

Ian Pollitt, from Peel, third from left, with Everton chairman Bill Kenwright, fourth from left, and majority shareholder Farhad Moshiri, second from right, at Bramley Moore dock in October

Peel says discussions with Everton about a new club stadium are ongoing and fans should “watch this space”.

And the developer says it will press ahead with the £5.5bn Liverpool Waters scheme whether the club moves to the docks or not.

Everton is considering two new sites for its new home – Bramley-Moore Dock, on the Mersey waterfront north of the city centre, and Stonebridge Cross.

The Liverpool Waters development, on land between Princes Dock and the Port of Liverpool, featuers skyscrapers, office blocks and housing.

In Peel’s masterplan the area around Bramley-Moore dock has been earmarked for housing.

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A CGI of how Liverpool Waters could look with Bramley Moore on the left. Picture supplied by Peel
Liverpool Waters assistant project director Ian Pollitt was pictured at Bramley-Moore dock in October when Everton’s majority shareholder Farhad Moshiri and chairman Bill Kenwright visited the site.

Asked about Peel’s involvement with the club he said: “We are talking to Everton. We are in discussions with them. It’s been ongoing.

“It would be good to see it in our development. But if it didn’t happen we’re quite confident we can do the development without them.

“It’s something we’d like to see there. So we’re working with Everton and the city on that. So watch this space.”

Everton is expected to make a decision on which stadium site to pursue early in the New Year.

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Alistair Houghton looks at what Liverpool could look like

Last week the club’s stadium architect Dan Meis sparked a debate over what Everton’s future home could look like.

While at Goodison for the derby New York-based Mr Meis tweeted a picture of a column with the hashtag #nocolumnsinthebowl


While Mr Meis has designed four-sided American football stadia in Cincinatti and Philadelphia, his only major European project so far is the proposed bowl-shaped Stadio della Roma.

Asked if that meant the new stadium would be a bowl, he replied: “No...steep intimate seating directly adjacent to the pitch can be done without columns.”

And he later confirmed: “‘Bowl” is a generic term for seating/stands...not the shape or geometry. Will not be a bowl.”

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• New Everton stadium: What are architect Dan Meis' creations like?

Liverpool Waters has been almost a decade in the planning but Mr Pollit and his team have been working hard behind the scenes.

In September Moda Living won planning permission for an £82m skyscraper at Princes Dock. Just weeks later, Your Housing Group revealed plans to build a 30-storey apartment block, called The Hive - City Docks, next door. Plans for another tall tower at Princes Dock are also understood to be well advanced.

The first public confirmation that Peel are enthusiastic about BMD. They are serious players so the possibility of being part of their huge development plans for the area is an incredible opportunity for the club.
It's safe to assume it's now down to whether we can raise the investment and overcome the bureaucracy. We've fallen at the financing hurdle every time previously but now have a billionaire investor with many connections so this is by far the best chance we've had.

 

[TheFinnFan]

Not really Finners. That whole development or Peel is massive for them. The Ground is ideal as a bookend to it, as well as a massive attraction to other parties.

But the development is not dependent on a stadium, but would be enhanced by it.

Yes i understand. Im just cautious infront of this one cause -like ive said many times before- this is a game changer and certain parties might try do anything in their power to derail this.

 

[Julius Geezer]

Peel will look at this and hope for a domino effect. I believe three apartment towers are in planning already on the edge of Liverpool waters.

Two have been passed by planning and 9 more are on the way including Liverpools tallest tower (for now) which is going to go where the big mirrored building is at the Old Hall St / Leeds St junction , exciting times ahead for the whole area .
I was also speaking to someone who designs and operates pubs and the council are not letting anymore licensed premises open in the current City Centre but encouraging anywhere around the North Docks area.

 

[Bullet]

if peel are trying to hurry Everton up abit maybe its because we dont actually have the funds to build it.

moshiri will need investers, and alot of hard cash to fund this, he will not be able to do it on his own.

who are his investors i wonder and are they ready to commit to such a huge project.

supoose we are about to find out. but we are clearly dragging our feet with an announcement intypical Everton style.

I tend to agree that this is calculated by Peel and, coming soon after they've put the property up for let again, seems like a deliberate nudge to FM.
Perhaps both parties are just playing hardball for the best deal but if so it seems strange that Peel would publicly acknowledge the stadium is their preferred option as opposed to being reluctant sellers.

 

[ToffeeTim]

They don't have to full on confirm this next week. But if the club completely duck the question altogether, then that would be a concern.

 

[KUEFC09U2]

I tend to agree that this is calculated by Peel and, coming soon after they've put the property up for let again, seems like a deliberate nudge to FM.
Perhaps both parties are just playing hardball for the best deal but if so it seems strange that Peel would publicly acknowledge the stadium is their preferred option as opposed to being reluctant sellers.

Dont agree that its a nudge to FM at all, esk already gave his thoughts on why the lease was put back up

 

[TheFinnFan]

We supposedly had purchased that land already? Or do I remember wrongly

 

[Visitor22]

Any idea on how this will be funded? Moshiri is not paying for it himself and the idea that his rich friends will contribute is fanciful unless they get serious returns - which come from the club?

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

We supposedly had purchased that land already? Or do I remember wrongly

Think it was mentioned on here that we had purchased the land in August.

 

[roydo]

We supposedly had purchased that land already? Or do I remember wrongly

Agreement subject to planning permission.

 

[KUEFC09U2]

We supposedly had purchased that land already? Or do I remember wrongly

We have, and esk has confirmed this quote from peel is from a while back

 

[roydo]

Any idea on how this will be funded? Moshiri is not paying for it himself and the idea that his rich friends will contribute is fanciful unless they get serious returns - which come from the club?

Combination of Mosh, other parties, and debt. Pretty much like any other (Private) large construction project.

The trick is to keep the debt low enough as not to knacker team financing in coming seasons I guess.

 

[Woolly Blue]

We supposedly had purchased that land already? Or do I remember wrongly

That's not been confirmed by either the Club or Peel yet mate. Till they do, I'm treating that info as just a rumour, all be it a rumour which is likely to have a firm basis to it.