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New Everton Stadium

KUEFC09U2 said:
The ground won't have a running track in to start with, Meis has confirmed via twitter that it can be adapted and then removed for the event
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With athletics, there's always this demand that the seating hugs the track curves. Yet no concession is made to the decades of poor views the subsequent football fans will suffer.

Make it rectangular, with a temporary stand at one end. Remove the temporary stand, install track (with rubbish views from the corner flag seats, but frankly, fk em), then build permanent 4th stand after the games.

SORTED.
 
paulbefc said:
The Etihad was a great job in terms of converting from athletics to football and getting fans relatively close to the pitch, but it's still more than a bit crap. Terrible atmosphere.

Grounds like Goodison are what makes the premier league and English football special and new stadiums should always seek to put history and atmosphere first in their design. For me, being an Evertonian wouldn't feel quite the same if we lost the atmosphere that intimidates opponents and referees so just to save money. I love the Goodison Fume. There's nothing on earth like it and I believe we'll lose it in a stadium with curved stands like the Etihad. Something like what Spurs are doing would be great.
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In an ideal world I'd keep Goodison when we move to our new home,see how it pans out for 5-6 years,if we don't like it,we move back....simples;)lol
 

Assuming your stadium is the centrepiece of the CWG, and assuming the track is temporary (i.e. no retractable seating) it seems there are two real options...

1. Etihad solution - Whether this would necessarily lead to any compromises in the closeness to the pitch I'm not sure. Dan Meis has mentioned this stadium before in his Tweets when athletics has been brought up, so perhaps he's been looking and learning from it - seeing what was done well and what wasn't? Timsescales wouldn't be completely ideal obviously but better than 2026.

2. Hampden solution - Athletics platform over the lower tier would severely reduce capacity for the CWGs unless the stadium is ovular or a huge capacity to begin with, but it should definitely work. Los Angeles is planning similar for its 2024 Olympic bid.

One thing which hasn't been mentioned: It takes a while to install these platforms - Hampden was closed for a season and their platform was almost certainly easier to install as the stadium was already a good shape for it (see http://www.insidethegames.biz/artic...se-for-one-year-for-glasgow-2014-preparations). So it might be that you wait till after the Games to move in, or you move out for a season soon after moving in. Maybe keep Goodison standing for this potential season away? Or maybe even a season at Anfield? :coffee:

Maybe we're adding 2+2 together and getting 5 and your stadium won't be hosting the athletics, but it's all very intruiging anyway. Things seem to be converging almost too conveniently.
 
I may be wrong, but the 2022 stuff just sounds like a politician grandstanding ( pun intended ).

If ( big if ) BMD is going to be designed with the possibility of hosting the Games then it's much more likely to be used as ammunition for a 2026 bid, not a ( relatively ) last minute replacement for Durban.
 
I am all for having as flexible stadium as possible with things like retractable roof, movable stands, retractable field or pitch, but it needs to be a PERFECT stadium for football. If it is possible to have a perfect stadium for football and then move stands or somehow accommodate athletics (or maybe we can raise the field up to the second tier of stands and install a track around it to have a 30k athletics stadium?), then I am all for it. If we can move one half of the field over the other and then have a perfect arena for boxing, tennis or basketball like they have in Lille Stadium, then I am all for it too. Maybe even a swimming stadium under the other half of the football pitch is a possibility in that Lille-style. The cost for that Lille stadium was €282 million and it is 50k seater. Easily achievable for us.

Just imagine possibilities for a stadium like that: Everton home games with possibility to host CL/EL/World Cup/EURO finals, NFL games, rugby games, if we go for that Lille-like arena then things like NBA games, basketball/volleyball/handball Final Fours or World/Euro Championships, big boxing or darts nights, tennis Davis Cup/Fed Cup/Laver Cup or possibly even ice-hockey and NHL exhibition games. And if we go for athletics track - then we can change the stadium every summer into an athletics venue to possibly host things like Diamond League event or Euro/World Champs. All of this means money. If we own the stadium, then it is extra money for the club and economy of Liverpool would profit from it hugely as well.

But well... to accomodate athletics just for one competition, I really don't see a point for that. That would bring us just another Etihad or in worse case another WHU stadium. I want something special.
 

RobSpurs said:
Assuming your stadium is the centrepiece of the CWG, and assuming the track is temporary (i.e. no retractable seating) it seems there are two real options...

1. Etihad solution - Whether this would necessarily lead to any compromises in the closeness to the pitch I'm not sure. Dan Meis has mentioned this stadium before in his Tweets when athletics has been brought up, so perhaps he's been looking and learning from it - seeing what was done well and what wasn't? Timsescales wouldn't be completely ideal obviously but better than 2026.

2. Hampden solution - Athletics platform over the lower tier would severely reduce capacity for the CWGs unless the stadium is ovular or a huge capacity to begin with, but it should definitely work. Los Angeles is planning similar for its 2024 Olympic bid.

One thing which hasn't been mentioned: It takes a while to install these platforms - Hampden was closed for a season and their platform was almost certainly easier to install as the stadium was already a good shape for it (see http://www.insidethegames.biz/artic...se-for-one-year-for-glasgow-2014-preparations). So it might be that you wait till after the Games to move in, or you move out for a season soon after moving in. Maybe keep Goodison standing for this potential season away? Or maybe even a season at Anfield? :coffee:

Maybe we're adding 2+2 together and getting 5 and your stadium won't be hosting the athletics, but it's all very intruiging anyway. Things seem to be converging almost too conveniently.
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Solution 3 - moving stands. This is something Meis is a proponent of but clearly would be the most expensive option. That said it is perhaps the best solution (cost withstanding) for accommodating a track and keeping a traditional footy shape.

http://www.meisstudio.com/sport-city/
 
The new stadium isn't going to have a running track.

It's being built regardless of what happens with the Commonwealth Games and is not dependent on it.

The club aren't stupid and are not going to repeat the PR disaster that would be replicating West Ham's stadium.
 

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