New Everton Stadium

[magicjuan]

killed me that , couldnt get over it for days, between that and are bottling it at wembley agaist the rs, was end of me going the match, swore i would stop going at the end of that season if he were still around ,after forty odd years of going, hardly been back since.
intresting note about the goings on after this around the kirkby shed time, i was on bluekipper and was getting pm from a poster who, was deffo an insider at the club,( not the fella on the gate or anything like that) was telling me all sorts of stuff that was going on, no mate of bill i can tell you, but i couldnt let a lot of it out as i had given my word not to, used to give bits of it i could, to Davek on here as he had the sense to be agaist it as well.

I could have written those words.

I was privy to some info that I shared and was hounded because I wouldn't provide a copy of the contract

Both the Chinese consortium and the Jain group met with the club on a few occasions, shared what I had with KEIOC via Daneli, a very clever and well informed blue, names, groups involved, times dates etc. Some were so set on the Blue Bill story that wouldn't accept the club had passed up on any interest many times

 

[edge]

What on earth do you think Bill plans to do? Give it away to a bigger and better blue than him when the time is right?

Good old Bill, remorgaged his house....doesn't take a salary, like the rest of them.

What do you think the yearly VIBRAC loan is? Even after lowering the debt each year for the past couple we still borrow 10 mil a year from a mystery Cayman Islands lender only to pay back that sum with a healthy ammount of interest. Robert Earl is a director of that Cayman company. Does that not strike you as suspicious?

For what it's worth, I don't long for a "loaded" owner, I wan't an owner with a plan that goes beyond TV money survival.

to pay for his shares not a penny for the club an investment for himself, good old super blue Bill master of bullshit, and yet some , well most fall for it. l

 

[BNJ1878]

Ignore the whole sentence and read the only bit you want to read..

I didn't ignore it, but seeing as everything you wrote was guesswork I didn't bother to comment on it all.

How do YOU know what the Greggs plans were? Are you a director of one of their companies?

You are right, they may well have sold us to a Shinawatra or a Venkys, but to think that Bill is this Great Blue who has done us a massive favour is head in the sand time.

Cheers.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

@BNJ1878

There's no evidence to suggest that Earl is a Director of Vibrac, that's a myth based on a postal address that's udes by dozens of other companies.

Vibrac have had similar arrangements with Fulham, West Ham, Southampton and Reading, so your accustaions are wide of the mark.

 

[edge]

I could have written those words.

I was privy to some info that I shared and was hounded because I wouldn't provide a copy of the contract

Both the Chinese consortium and the Jain group met with the club on a few occasions, shared what I had with KEIOC via Daneli, a very clever and well informed blue, names, groups involved, times dates etc. Some were so set on the Blue Bill story that wouldn't accept the club had passed up on any interest many times

i recall that magic, god there were some right deluded lickspittal fookers in those days , you just couldnt get them off the party line.like it made them super fans or something.

 

[edge]

@BNJ1878

There's no evidence to suggest that Earl is a Director of Vibrac, that's a myth based on a postal address that's udes by dozens of other companies.

Vibrac have had similar arrangements with Fulham, West Ham, Southampton and Reading, so your accustaions are wide of the mark.

we might find out soon, there are moves for the virgin isles to disclose the names and owners of the said companys to stop tax avasion.

 

[BNJ1878]

@BNJ1878

There's no evidence to suggest that Earl is a Director of Vibrac, that's a myth based on a postal address that's udes by dozens of other companies.

Vibrac have had similar arrangements with Fulham, West Ham, Southampton and Reading, so your accustaions are wide of the mark.

You are of course right, in the past I have registered things in George Town for my clients.

I shall retract my accusation of the board being "on the take."

What explaination do you have for the VIBRAC loan? What exactly does it service seeing as we could "afford" to reduce the debt?

 

[Kieno]

Bit lost here.....I don't see any menion of anything called VIBRAC in the 2014 accounts

 

[edge]

from the echo mate
EVERTON FC insist they have not increased their debt by taking out a new loan based on their Premier League television income for next season.

Last month the Blues signed a loan agreement with British Virgin Islands based Vibrac Corporation for one year to the value of £14m, after repaying a similar deal for the same amount to previous lenders, banking firm Investec.

One national newspaper report today detailed the club’s new loan, but club officials say it is a rolling agreement which has been part of their finances for more than four years and was clear to see in their last set of accounts.

And they say the interest rates they have agreed with Vibrac will actually save them money compared to the terms offered for renewal by Investec and other banks.

Borrowing against TV income for the following year is not uncommon among top flight football clubs, and the club’s latest loan has been approved by the Premier League.

Everton are aware of the risk to both lender and mortgager of such loans should they be relegated, but insist that even in the unlikely situation that they were consigned to the Championship they could cover it from the bumper parachute payments from the Premier League.

And club officials say Vibrac’s agreement to loan them the £14m is a sign of their confidence that Everton will remain in England's top division.

 

[magicjuan]

from the echo mate
EVERTON FC insist they have not increased their debt by taking out a new loan based on their Premier League television income for next season.

Last month the Blues signed a loan agreement with British Virgin Islands based Vibrac Corporation for one year to the value of £14m, after repaying a similar deal for the same amount to previous lenders, banking firm Investec.

One national newspaper report today detailed the club’s new loan, but club officials say it is a rolling agreement which has been part of their finances for more than four years and was clear to see in their last set of accounts.

And they say the interest rates they have agreed with Vibrac will actually save them money compared to the terms offered for renewal by Investec and other banks.

Borrowing against TV income for the following year is not uncommon among top flight football clubs, and the club’s latest loan has been approved by the Premier League.

Everton are aware of the risk to both lender and mortgager of such loans should they be relegated, but insist that even in the unlikely situation that they were consigned to the Championship they could cover it from the bumper parachute payments from the Premier League.

And club officials say Vibrac’s agreement to loan them the £14m is a sign of their confidence that Everton will remain in England's top division.

I know the devil is in the detail, but following a relegation how secure would the loan be for the following year ifit isa part of the economic machinery in place?

there's a parachute payment iirc, but if the loan was called in that would have to go that way..

 

[edge]

I know the devil is in the detail, but following a relegation how secure would the loan be for the following year ifit isa part of the economic machinery in place?

there's a parachute payment iirc, but if the loan was called in that would have to go that way..

think you have to question why we are constantly on the mooch, despite never really splashing out on the ground and not really spending anything on players we havent already got in, and along with the finch farm deal the fact we own less than we started with, two training grounds sold to rent one out on the never never, build on land we owned in the first place its nuts, i give up even trying to make sense of it,

 

[BNJ1878]

think you have to question why we are constantly on the mooch, despite never really splashing out on the ground and not really spending anything on players we havent already got in, and along with the finch farm deal the fact we own less than we started with, two training grounds sold to rent one out on the never never, build on land we owned in the first place its nuts, i give up even trying to make sense of it,

That's just it, since "True Blue Holdings" have come in, the debt has increased, we have sold everything except Goodison and we have have 2 ground moves dangled infront of us.

One massive missed opportunity and one cow shed dressed up as a great chance for us to move forward.

These failures despite it being the richest period football has ever known!

*If* BK was a foriegn investor he would be getting it down the banks every home game.

Being Blue hides his dismal failings to the majority.

 

[mrb85]

Short answer. No.

Long answer, it doesn't have the foundations, so that you couldn't even retrofit a tier over it.

I'm sure that's not insuperable. The upper half of the existing stand would presumably need to be removed anyway for it to be made two-tier and the additional load could presumably be supported by the foundations that would need to be laid at what is currently the Park End concourse.

 

[OneTrueLegend]

I'm sure that's not insuperable. The upper half of the existing stand would presumably need to be removed anyway for it to be made two-tier and the additional load could presumably be supported by the foundations that would need to be laid at what is currently the Park End

Looking at the footprint of the site, I would say we would need to either;

A) buy up a row of houses behind one of the existing stands (like they did across the park) and close a stand for a season while it was knocked down and rebuilt

B) knock down the park stand and rebuild it changing the space currently behind that stand

C) buy the land that the school is on, look at relocating the school, knocking down more stands and rotating the pitch, etc.

There are more detailed versions of how it could be done online, HOK did one I think and there was one on KEIOC,


http://www.keioc.net/index.php?page=redevelopment-plans



http://www.keioc.net/index.php?page=external-renderings

 

[Eggs]

.......earlier today I cut through the back of Edge Lane where the old Crawfords factory and TJ Hughes warehouses were. Must be acres of derelict land there with fantasist supporting infrastructure (end of the M62 and train stops at Edge Hill and Wavertree Technology Park).

I appreciate Walton Hall is near Goodison but surely there are better options than using existing parkland. Anyway, my picture is on the wall in the Schoolboy Gallery at Wally Hall so that in itself is why Edge Lane gets my vote.