New Everton Stadium

[Dabluez]

It's going to be the best venue for concerts in the north of England. People will travel. Mark me words.

You haven't even seen a design for the Stadium but you are still adamant that it will be the best concert venue in the north west. The new Stadium has got the potential to be a great venue but surely we have to temper that with a touch of reality.

 

[Rudolf Hucker]

I’ve stopped caring about the stadium.

I would have thanked you for a post to block my view of that dogsh1t today!

The football was even more irritating than the horrendous white noise from the PA (WTF was that about???).

The stench of incompetence will linger wherever we move.

 

[OnlyBlueWillDo]

YES and if he doesn't then I suppose you will have the same done to you..

I quite like my chances to be honest

Moshiri will deliver us a new stadium, there is zero patience in our fanbase, these things take a little time to sort out.

Best thing to happen to this club in 30 years is this fella, and Usmanov will be here soon, if he isn't already.

 

[Dabluez]

Moshiri will deliver us a new stadium, there is zero patience in our fanbase, these things take a little time to sort out.

Best thing to happen to this club in 30 years is this fella, and Usmanov will be here soon, if he isn't already.

QPR got relegated whilst being owned by Briatore, Ecclestone and Mittal who are worth £20bn+, Sunderland got relegated whilst being owned by Ellis Short a Bilionaire, Newcastle got relegated whilst being owned by Mike Ashley who is worth £2.5bn. The Redshite were hours from administration under 2 Billionaires.

Rich men didn't get rich by making business decisions that don't make sense. Moshiri or Usmanov will only invest if there is a return.

Given in the last accounts our match day revenue was only £18m despite having an average attendance of 39,000 I can't see where the return comes from. A £500m Stadium would represent an investment of 4 times our turnover as reported in the last accounts.

Even if we trebled our gate receipts in a new Stadium that would only be £54m a season which would mean our gate receipts would only be around 9% of our Stadium debt without taking interest payments into account.

 

[Frank Halfcoate]

I seriously doubt our Persian and Russian overlords hold the same opinion as you
The ground will be built in suck a way that every Last penny will be squeezed out of it
From small meetings to mid sized conferences
From birthday parties to weddings
From old age meetings to concerts , every penny will be extracted and rightly so.
Don’t be surprised to see concessions opened up in on and around the stadium

Please forgive me for asking, but what is an "old age meeting"?

 

[Toffeelover]

Noticed while watching the game, guess who was advertising on the electronic board USM!!

 

[indieman1]

It's going to be the best venue for concerts in the north of England. People will travel. Mark me words.

It would be a curious decision to rely on major concerts given the direction of travel in the music industry.

A capacity of 60k automatically means you are reliant on mega acts. Nobody wants to play a venue they won't fill. Trouble is the number of acts capable of generating those sort of crowds is in free fall as older acts die off or retire and newer acts tend to have shorter shelf lives. Most festivals are presently getting very nervous for exactly that reason.

Lots of large venues will be chasing ever fewer headline acts.Even currently there isn't a massive amount to go around. Wembley and the Millennium stadium only muster slightly more than a handful of concerts each year.

Income generated in this space would be a bonus rather than something the club will be relying on. I hope.

 

[Dabluez]

Noticed while watching the game, guess who was advertising on the electronic board USM!!

You advertise to build up your brand recognition. USM is a holding company that means nothing to 99.99% of the population.

Look at the website.

• USM Holdings (USM) is a diversified international holding company with significant interests across the metals and mining, telecoms and internet sectors. The group was established in 2012 to streamline and consolidate the various projects of Alisher Usmanov and his partners, which are the result of over 20 years of illustrious entrepreneurial and business development activities.
• USM’s assets include Metalloinvest, the largest mining company in Russia and the CIS and the leading global manufacturer of hot briquetted iron, Baikal Mining Company, which owns the largest copper reserves in Russia, MegaFon, a major telecommunications operator in Russia, and Mail.Ru Group, the Russian internet leader and owner of the country’s most popular social networks VKontakte and Odnoklassniki. The group is also a prominent global investor in the digital space with stakes in companies such as Alibaba, JD.com, Xiaomi, Uber, Spotify, Airbnb, Zalando, Flipkart, Ola Cabs, Didi Chuxing, ZocDoc and Klarna, and is a major investor in ESforce, one of the key players in the global esports market. Furthermore, it manages a number of other industry-leading businesses including UTH Russia, one of the country’s largest media and entertainment groups with a unique portfolio of popular national TV channels in Russia and Kazakhstan including Disney, CTC, U, Muz TV, Che and Domashny; Kommersant Publishing House, the number one business media organisation in Russia; and Khimki Group, one of the leaders in the Russian property development industry.
• Bringing together the interests of Mr. Usmanov and his partners into one holding, USM is structured to facilitate the sharing of both intellectual and financial capital amongst its businesses. The group’s companies benefit from a global network of relationships and a wealth of experience, which enable them to access investment opportunities both in Russia and internationally. USM’s efficient reporting system and high transparency levels are in line with international standards of corporate governance.
• The group operates in a socially responsible manner, investing in long-term sustainable enterprises, stimulating economic development and creating employment opportunities in Russia. USM supports local communities through a wide range of social projects in the fields of education, sports, arts, science and the environment.
• The success of the group is built on the foundation of global investments in high-quality companies that drive economic growth, create opportunities, foster innovation, and make a positive impact on society.
• The main shareholders of USM are Alisher Usmanov, Vladimir Skoch and Farhad Moshiri.

 

[AsiaAsia82]

Please forgive me for asking, but what is an "old age meeting"?

Our Centre halves team talk

 

[blueblue]

You haven't even seen a design for the Stadium but you are still adamant that it will be the best concert venue in the north west. The new Stadium has got the potential to be a great venue but surely we have to temper that with a touch of reality.

But, you haven't seen the design either.
This is a new stadium built in the 21st century from the ground up.
This stadium can offer enormous opportunities for off field revenue.

Why should there not be concerts in Liverpool ?
Why should they not be as successful as anything that happens in Manchester.

I look at Croke Park in Dublin with a capacity of over 80000 people which regulary sells out for concerts.
Pairc Ui Chaoimh in Cork ( a stadium opened in the last few months with a 45,000 capacity) has completely sold out a couple of concerts for Ed Sheerin.
Why could this not happen in our new ground ?

 

[blulouie]

You advertise to build up your brand recognition. USM is a holding company that means nothing to 99.99% of the population.

Look at the website.

• USM Holdings (USM) is a diversified international holding company with significant interests across the metals and mining, telecoms and internet sectors. The group was established in 2012 to streamline and consolidate the various projects of Alisher Usmanov and his partners, which are the result of over 20 years of illustrious entrepreneurial and business development activities.
• USM’s assets include Metalloinvest, the largest mining company in Russia and the CIS and the leading global manufacturer of hot briquetted iron, Baikal Mining Company, which owns the largest copper reserves in Russia, MegaFon, a major telecommunications operator in Russia, and Mail.Ru Group, the Russian internet leader and owner of the country’s most popular social networks VKontakte and Odnoklassniki. The group is also a prominent global investor in the digital space with stakes in companies such as Alibaba, JD.com, Xiaomi, Uber, Spotify, Airbnb, Zalando, Flipkart, Ola Cabs, Didi Chuxing, ZocDoc and Klarna, and is a major investor in ESforce, one of the key players in the global esports market. Furthermore, it manages a number of other industry-leading businesses including UTH Russia, one of the country’s largest media and entertainment groups with a unique portfolio of popular national TV channels in Russia and Kazakhstan including Disney, CTC, U, Muz TV, Che and Domashny; Kommersant Publishing House, the number one business media organisation in Russia; and Khimki Group, one of the leaders in the Russian property development industry.
• Bringing together the interests of Mr. Usmanov and his partners into one holding, USM is structured to facilitate the sharing of both intellectual and financial capital amongst its businesses. The group’s companies benefit from a global network of relationships and a wealth of experience, which enable them to access investment opportunities both in Russia and internationally. USM’s efficient reporting system and high transparency levels are in line with international standards of corporate governance.
• The group operates in a socially responsible manner, investing in long-term sustainable enterprises, stimulating economic development and creating employment opportunities in Russia. USM supports local communities through a wide range of social projects in the fields of education, sports, arts, science and the environment.
• The success of the group is built on the foundation of global investments in high-quality companies that drive economic growth, create opportunities, foster innovation, and make a positive impact on society.
• The main shareholders of USM are Alisher Usmanov, Vladimir Skoch and Farhad Moshiri.

Hello mate
You seem well versed , you been on this forum in a past life ?...you seem familiar.

 

[Dabluez]

But, you haven't seen the design either.
This is a new stadium built in the 21st century from the ground up.
This stadium can offer enormous opportunities for off field revenue.

Why should there not be concerts in Liverpool ?
Why should they not be as successful as anything that happens in Manchester.

I look at Croke Park in Dublin with a capacity of over 80000 people which regulary sells out for concerts.
Pairc Ui Chaoimh in Cork ( a stadium opened in the last few months with a 45,000 capacity) has completely sold out a couple of concerts for Ed Sheerin.
Why could this not happen in our new ground ?

Yes I haven't seen the designs but that means we should wait for the design and then make an opinion.

I am desperate for the new ground to be successful but surely we have to judge it on it's merits.

Let's see the design's form an opinion and then react. At the moment we seem to keen too grasp onto every possibility and then dismiss it when it doesn't come to immediate fruition.

It is self destructive and doesn't help.

 

[Toffeelover]

You advertise to build up your brand recognition. USM is a holding company that means nothing to 99.99% of the population.

Look at the website.

• USM Holdings (USM) is a diversified international holding company with significant interests across the metals and mining, telecoms and internet sectors. The group was established in 2012 to streamline and consolidate the various projects of Alisher Usmanov and his partners, which are the result of over 20 years of illustrious entrepreneurial and business development activities.
• USM’s assets include Metalloinvest, the largest mining company in Russia and the CIS and the leading global manufacturer of hot briquetted iron, Baikal Mining Company, which owns the largest copper reserves in Russia, MegaFon, a major telecommunications operator in Russia, and Mail.Ru Group, the Russian internet leader and owner of the country’s most popular social networks VKontakte and Odnoklassniki. The group is also a prominent global investor in the digital space with stakes in companies such as Alibaba, JD.com, Xiaomi, Uber, Spotify, Airbnb, Zalando, Flipkart, Ola Cabs, Didi Chuxing, ZocDoc and Klarna, and is a major investor in ESforce, one of the key players in the global esports market. Furthermore, it manages a number of other industry-leading businesses including UTH Russia, one of the country’s largest media and entertainment groups with a unique portfolio of popular national TV channels in Russia and Kazakhstan including Disney, CTC, U, Muz TV, Che and Domashny; Kommersant Publishing House, the number one business media organisation in Russia; and Khimki Group, one of the leaders in the Russian property development industry.
• Bringing together the interests of Mr. Usmanov and his partners into one holding, USM is structured to facilitate the sharing of both intellectual and financial capital amongst its businesses. The group’s companies benefit from a global network of relationships and a wealth of experience, which enable them to access investment opportunities both in Russia and internationally. USM’s efficient reporting system and high transparency levels are in line with international standards of corporate governance.
• The group operates in a socially responsible manner, investing in long-term sustainable enterprises, stimulating economic development and creating employment opportunities in Russia. USM supports local communities through a wide range of social projects in the fields of education, sports, arts, science and the environment.
• The success of the group is built on the foundation of global investments in high-quality companies that drive economic growth, create opportunities, foster innovation, and make a positive impact on society.
• The main shareholders of USM are Alisher Usmanov, Vladimir Skoch and Farhad Moshiri.

Missed the point Mate. I was showing that money is being put into club via a back door albeit not a huge amount.

 

[orly]

Today is the big day on the vote isn't it?

 

[MickA]

You haven't even seen a design for the Stadium but you are still adamant that it will be the best concert venue in the north west. The new Stadium has got the potential to be a great venue but surely we have to temper that with a touch of reality.

Well, to be honest there is no reason to doubt that it can/would be the best big stadium facilities wise for gigs/events in the NW. OT (footy) and Anfield are pure football stadia built incrementally and the Etihad's design from inception was formulated from an athletics blueprint. OT (cricket) always looks the cheap option, big space little in the way of atmosphere). BMD has the luxury of being a blank sheet of paper that can be designed to hold gigs and events much easier using better infrastructure and facilities than any of the existing stadia nearby.

Arena's can be partitioned and curtained easily these days if the will is there to do so, offering a multitude of configurations. Of course we may not be bothered in that at all in which case it's a moot point but the opportunity is certainly there.