New Everton Stadium

[ToffeeTim]

Where is all this opposition to the plans that some keep mentioning?, there may be some opposition to the financing agreement but hardly any to the actual plans, and the finance agreement will still be sorted

Jeff in West Derby has bought his lever arch, a new briefcase, and a book of legislation, and is all set for the supreme Court. Could lead to years of delays tbh. May as well redevelop Goodison and cut our losses.

 

[BunnerJnr]

Anyone else sick to death of all the talk and no action.

Dan Meiss seems to have been around for yonks now talking about it. He’s not produced any actual drawings or owt.

Wish people would just shut their traps and just get on with the bloody thing.

Typical Everton making it so long and drawn out that everyone gets sick and tired of it.

Everton are so boring. They strangle the life out of everything.

Pull your fingers out of your collective bum holes and get to work for gods sake.

Regards,
One unhappy Bully.

Everton do strangle the life out of anything positive. Dan Meis has been working on stadium plans since December 2015.

 

[Brisan123]

Juves new stadion, 42,000

We don’t play in the Italian league
Barca’s stadium can hold 100,000 but we don’t play on the Spainish league

 

[Brisan123]

But using that logic Manchester united should easily be able to build a 150000+ stadium and fill it.

Stadium capacities are set for a reason



It will also look silly if there are 10000 seats empty.
You can't just say thousands of people will come because it's easy to get to.

Same reason why bellew Vs haye is at the 02 and not wembley.

Of course United would fill a 150.000 seater stadium

Do you know how many people live in London and Asia

 

[davek]

Where is all this opposition to the plans that some keep mentioning?, there may be some opposition to the financing agreement but hardly any to the actual plans, and the finance agreement will still be sorted

It's pretty hard to protest against something that hasn't been fully presented and still remains very much an idea. Make no mistake though, the size of this development will have repercussions for the region as a whole and I would suggest that indieman is making a pretty unassailable point that as a matter of course any such development would redraw the local plan and therefore need looking at. So what that the present government are ideologically on board with such schemes. Do you think New Labour weren't of the same mentality to this shower in power right now when they called DK in? I have to laugh at the peddling of two contradictory lines simultaneously by some on here: that this is simply too huge not to go ahead, too much of an economic driver to get knocked back...but then deny that its very hugeness is not a problem for anyone else!

Unreal.

 

[Brisan123]

It is Peel and Anderson's vision for the rest of the site that is the kicker. Doubtful they can make it stack up financially without a good number of blocks taller than whatever stadium our relentlessly self promotional architect is cooking up. And make no mistake, even if this stadium project can be funded, a spade won't hit the ground until Peel have an agreed and funded wider plan that they are irreversibly committed to. Even we aren't stupid enough to build a 7 day a week stadium complex a mile away from anything else approaching civilisation on a wing and a prayer that peel might pull their finger out of their arse at some indeterminate point in the future and build some complimentary facilities.

In short, the corpy is going to have to call UNESCO'S bluff no matter how tall our plan.

You are so close to the truth there you only have to take a tiny step and you will see all

 

[BNJ1878]

The point is that the governing party, who have the right to call significant projects such as this in for review, have strong form, both recent and longer term, when it comes to making irrational decisions if it gives them an opportunity to give Labour a black eye.

It's ok to believe that won't happen or wouldn't normally happen, all I'm saying is that we as a club and as a city have plenty of reason to know better than to hope for that.

For what it's worth, i'd be confident any project of this nature would eventually be waived through. The main issue with it being called in is that we would loose control of the timeframe.

Fair points, I do however think this is too big to derail.

 

[TheFinnFan]

We don’t play in the Italian league
Barca’s stadium can hold 100,000 but we don’t play on the Spainish league

Are you trying to say that we are playing in Premier League?

 

[ashwuk76]

Jeff in West Derby has bought his lever arch, a new briefcase, and a book of legislation, and is all set for the supreme Court. Could lead to years of delays tbh. May as well redevelop Goodison and cut our losses.

Has to go to the High Court First.... Will let you know if it does

 

[wainy]

5bn quid of regeneration. The Tories have to fund approx £0. What difference is stadium going to make to other authorities? Absolutely zero. DK was called in because they proposed a huge stadium in a small area with a huge retail park attached to it, when locally you already had L1, speke retail, Aintree retail, prescot retail parks and the Trafford centre only 30 mins away. Oh and it had absolutely appalling infrastructure. This will sail through.

 

[blueblue]

Where is all this opposition to the plans that some keep mentioning?, there may be some opposition to the financing agreement but hardly any to the actual plans, and the finance agreement will still be sorted

They are all on here.

 

[mahermi1]

Jeff in West Derby has bought his lever arch, a new briefcase, and a book of legislation, and is all set for the supreme Court. Could lead to years of delays tbh. May as well redevelop Goodison and cut our losses.

Jeff has actually discovered a newish species of fish that needs protecting, he says no stadium can be built, that can endanger a rare" Mersey Goldfish " and could possibly lead to extinction of the feaces, erm, I mean species.

 

[RobSpurs]

Fairly sure (though can't find a link) the government changed planning laws a few years back so fewer projects would be called in. Wasn't it part of the localism act to give more say to local authorities and decentralise planning?

However, seems from reports the city itself is taking the UNESCO threat more seriously than before. If that means changes to the wider plans then that could slow things down. I guess it depends how set in stone the stadium location is within the grand scheme of things. If that can go ahead whilst other changes are being made around it then that's obviously the ideal scenario, but I don't know if that'd be the case or not.

 

[Jacko93]

It is Peel and Anderson's vision for the rest of the site that is the kicker. Doubtful they can make it stack up financially without a good number of blocks taller than whatever stadium our relentlessly self promotional architect is cooking up. And make no mistake, even if this stadium project can be funded, a spade won't hit the ground until Peel have an agreed and funded wider plan that they are irreversibly committed to. Even we aren't stupid enough to build a 7 day a week stadium complex a mile away from anything else approaching civilisation on a wing and a prayer that peel might pull their finger out of their arse at some indeterminate point in the future and build some complimentary facilities.

In short, the corpy is going to have to call UNESCO'S bluff no matter how tall our plan.

Plans are already in for the area, the builds are happening now. Its already becoming a reality.

 

[Jacko93]

Why was DK called in? Other authorities, civic organisations, individuals asking for it to be stopped. Does this even have the support of the City Region chief and his office?

Yes.