Good of him to include an empty glue bottle outside the stadium as I suspect a fair few fans have a good sniff before going in.
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Good of him to include an empty glue bottle outside the stadium as I suspect a fair few fans have a good sniff before going in.
If none have, then surely that's evidence enough that a larger capacity isn't justified.
1. Club (and all the people actually looking into what is wanted/needed/costs, etc) think it should be x
2. Fans want x + 10,000
3. Club says we'll build with x capacity and the option to add an extra 10,000 in the future
4. There's never a need for the extra 10,000 so it never gets actioned.
Gareth Gibson
Player Valuation: £8m
Wolves struggle to fill their current ground but as you say attendances tend to increase dramatically when a club moves to a new stadium. Or redevelops.
paulf
Player Valuation: £8m
I was involved to a small degree at work on the Liver buildings and the snippet I kept hearing all the time was all depends on the goverments stance on safe standing as it is a big factor.....time will tell I suppose...but once the build starts and it will.. the clammer for new season tickets will be more than reasonable and certainly will take it over 40k wanting one...factor in giving them lot a barge on the mersey to watch the game from....or other away fans 2-3k....then intially sounds about right. Everton as a club is ever so slowly going in the right direction at last and another factor is how we are performing over the next season or so.....whatever happens its certainly positive news..
Bluerover
Player Valuation: £50m
Planning application in second half of next year. Building unlikely before 2020 at least.
SpongeBob brown shoes
Player Valuation: £40m
Yeah that's what I'm thinking also,
Colin Chong said
“At this stage, it is important to stress that this is our ‘proposed’ capacity and it is what we are currently working towards. It is important to emphasise that the final capacity and design will be subject to further engagement and consultation".
So can't wait till the final announcement of our 48000 seat bowl
orly
Please check with me for Blammo criteria
Chong doing a bowl?
hallamblue
Player Valuation: £40m
I think the issue is usually whether a club wants to fill a stadium with full paying fans, or try and create future fans:
Middlesborough built a stadium too big for the town and gave away tickets
West Ham have sold season tickets for about £3 a game to ensure they get people in
I'm sure Man City give away thousands of tickets
Everton seem to have taken a different view, and decided to go for a capacity that's correct without giving away tickets. Personally I think this is a mistake. There are thousands of people in Merseyside and the surrounding areas who can't get into the theme park in Anfield, priced out so that foreigners can get in and take photos of Klopp acting like a numpty on the sidelines. Everton would have had a real opportunity to get 60,000 people into the ground, but 10,000 of them probably wouldn't have been able to pay, certainly not to start with. Then again, it probably sums up modern football, more important to make sure that it has a glass tunnel club and a cheese room than getting a lot of "normal" fans in.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not blaming Moshiri, I'd probably do the same in his shoes, but I do think it would have been a chance for Everton to truly become "The People's Club".
Middlesborough built a stadium too big for the town and gave away tickets
West Ham have sold season tickets for about £3 a game to ensure they get people in
I'm sure Man City give away thousands of tickets
Everton seem to have taken a different view, and decided to go for a capacity that's correct without giving away tickets. Personally I think this is a mistake. There are thousands of people in Merseyside and the surrounding areas who can't get into the theme park in Anfield, priced out so that foreigners can get in and take photos of Klopp acting like a numpty on the sidelines. Everton would have had a real opportunity to get 60,000 people into the ground, but 10,000 of them probably wouldn't have been able to pay, certainly not to start with. Then again, it probably sums up modern football, more important to make sure that it has a glass tunnel club and a cheese room than getting a lot of "normal" fans in.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not blaming Moshiri, I'd probably do the same in his shoes, but I do think it would have been a chance for Everton to truly become "The People's Club".
it happens in the housing sector mate, get PP for a bungalow, deal with the objections then resubmit the PP for a "predominantly ground floor dwelling" that is essentially a normal two floor house just the the ground floor is a touch bigger than the top floor that sailed through the PP. Thats exactly what my bro in law did.
scratchnsurf
Player Valuation: £40m
CRIMHEAD
Player Valuation: £40m
Could be Cincinnati FCs new stadium, too.
So they’re just building a new ground next to the old one.
We’re building ours on a world heritage site, on the banks of the river Mersey as part of a massive regeneration scheme that will attract investors from all over the world.
I know what one I’d rather have.
havrey0123
Player Valuation: £25m
Doubt it.
The clubs who expand usually have a massive waiting list and with some going back well over a decade.
We don't have that.
You can't just predict 10,000 fans will come from no where. That's just poor business.
Continued Success brings more fans, we haven't got that yet.
I see your point but you must know Man City and West Ham give plenty of tickets away yet still cannot fill the grounds. Those give away tickets are announced as attendees regardless if they turn up or not. It has been stated that Man City claim 97% capacity because of tickets sold or given away when in real terms the attendees are 83% capacity which leaves nearly 20% empty seats. Same applies to west ham but there real terms are 25% empty seats. I think 52k is a good realistic size with possible expansion.
evertonarntwe
Player Valuation: £35m
Boss watching flap abar the stadium, ive got a season ticket so know mine is secure when we move ground, not arsed abar the rest of the wools scrapping over the rest EFC