Catfish Blues
Player Valuation: £15m
It was mixed as to whether people were arsed on GOT before last Sunday, but, GOT being GOT, it had been discussed ...
It was mixed as to whether people were arsed on GOT before last Sunday, but, GOT being GOT, it had been discussed ...
He's not listed on here..
en.wikipedia.org
Interestingly though there is a Dave - so Dave, if it bothers you so much please change your name
List of slave owners - Wikipedia
Interestingly though there is a Dave - so Dave, if it bothers you so much please change your name
seer
Player Valuation: £1m
He's not listed on here..
List of slave owners - Wikipedia
Interestingly though there is a Dave - so Dave, if it bothers you so much please change your name
Jacko93
Player Valuation: £35m
Liverpool as a city has huge connections with the slave trade, everywhere. What do you propose we do, move to Kirkby which never existed through those times?
I can understand that you have misgivings about the club and its running, but the club have never, to my knowledge referred to the new ground as the Bramley Moore stadium, it has always been the peoples project. Is it the peoples project at Bramley Moore Dock? Well yes, its an address, an address they don't own, never mind have the right to change the name of.
If you are that bothered lobby Peel, or even the council. If you get it changed then huge congratulations, your conviction on the matter will have truly helped facilitate change. Nowt do with the club though. A bit like saying Everton shouldn't associate itself with the City of Liverpool because of its historical links to the slave trade.
My enjoyment of the forum has improved ten fold since putting him on ignore. A little confusing at first as threads were a little disjointed, but the overall effect is wonderful.
I used to admire his commitment to the cause, but it soon morphed into pity.
Absolutely mental.
Well this is certainly an innovative new angle for Dave. Very interested to see where he goes with this.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
I think he will chain himself to Goodison to start with....then he will let go his Butler and Valet, all together, they've been furloughed for the last three months.
evertonandchelmsford
Player Valuation: £1m
If people were complaining about the Bramley Moore name before it was confirmed then fair enough but unfortunately for them it's just sensationalised bandwagon jumping looking for any excuse to cause a problem.
Disgruntledgoat
Player Valuation: £50m
It's a shame dave wasnt arsed about this whilst the public consultation was ongoing.
And that he hasn't got any proof that Bramley-Moore was involved in the slave trade beyond guilt by association and hearsay.
And that he hasn't got any proof that Bramley-Moore was involved in the slave trade beyond guilt by association and hearsay.
MickA
Player Valuation: £10m
I'm finding the objections and calls to change the name of the dock embarrassing to be honest. In fact I'll go further and say it's an unnecessary distraction to the entire point of the movement.
Education is the key and I'll gladly defer to those with far more experience than I in this matter. Laurence Westgaph is very clear on his views that he feels changing/removing names etc is an obstacle to education. If BM was involved so be it, this city, of all cities, cannot ignore any of that past, deal with it and educate for a better society.
Education is the key and I'll gladly defer to those with far more experience than I in this matter. Laurence Westgaph is very clear on his views that he feels changing/removing names etc is an obstacle to education. If BM was involved so be it, this city, of all cities, cannot ignore any of that past, deal with it and educate for a better society.
OneTrueLegend
Player Valuation: £35m
It wont be refereed to as Bramley-Moore, anymore than Man City's ground is called Eastlands. It will be named after a sponsorship agreement with whomever pays the most. We cant do anything about the history of the site, the best we can hope for is to educate people in the future. Maybe we could include a small museum somewhere on the site which explains the history of the dock
Jacko93
Player Valuation: £35m
Bramley Moore Dock Stadium plans. The plans for a Stadium at Bramley Moore Dock. Are you suggesting that the ground is to be named Bramley Moore Dock?
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
Plain as a pikestaff: "Bramley Moore Dock Stadium" is the name, plan is the intention for it.
We're going round in circles, though. We dont need to reference it. At all.
Isn't that worth considering in the current climate?