Tom Hughes
Player Valuation: £10m
Or as is possibly more likely..... will the river come up to meet it? ?
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Im sure I read music events would be hosted there, stupid if they dont
Dont know about a retractable pitch like, theres definitely no NFL etc like Spurs
my only concern is that with the liverpool echo arena next door whether that would cause a problem
If it comes to choice ours would win hands down, just due to the capacity difference.
Tom Hughes
Player Valuation: £10m
Yes, the roof is very high above the stand, which is of quite a steep rake too. This of course also means that the rows of fans fall further away from that reflective surface quite quickly. Therefore only a relatively small proportion get any great acoustic effect, with the bulk of the stand essentially shouting out into open space. If that proportion is high enough, it will allow chants to propogate effectively, but it doesn't really look that way in cross sectional views. Wembley suffers similarly.
The arched roof and cranked corner sections will however have some acoustic enhancing effects but not sure how much. The large end stand at Spurs has some similar deficiencies, but is deeper and bigger capacity. The South Tribune at Dortmund should've probably been the ideal benchmark. This has a slightly downward pointing roof with a small apex towards the rear, which pools much of the noise and allows chants to spread across the whole stand, encouraging the whole end to join in and project it out onto the pitch. I think the design proposed for WHP actually was better in this respect.... with a larger home end and better roof angle.
The initial BMD stadium was east-west and also had a bigger home end. The current BMD home end is 60 rows I think.... which is only approx 2 rows more than the Gwladys upper and lower combined. Of course it will have greater unity as a single tier, but it's not the mega-home end originally promised.
roydo
in memoriam - 1965-2024
Not in the winter it wouldnt.
That said, if we apply for a music licence, it will be another stadium on the list of ones available.
RobSpurs
Player Valuation: £2.5m
Quick Google...
You've got permission for "four major non-sporting events at full capacity per year" at BMD.
For comparison, we've got permission for "16 non-Spurs events per year at full capacity, up to six of which can be concerts”.
That seems like a big difference but I don't think we'll reach that number anytime soon. It's a bit of long-term (perhaps wishful) thinking in case the NFL decides it wants a London franchise.
BullensRoad
Player Valuation: £30m
I've seen people crying over what ale will be sold so no one can guess that (it will be like spurs where you can choose)
Color of the seats is my guess.
roydo
in memoriam - 1965-2024
Any idea what you make on an NFL match? As in, the fee, not the match day income which would be similar to a normal home game I would guess.
Kever10
Player Valuation: £20m
So do you think all the studies and work on creating the best atmosphere possible was all just a line to pass off a generic bowl as something it's not?
I've had my suspicions as more and more was revealed.
I somehow think I'll be pleasantly surprised and underwhelmed at the same time. Which somehow perfectly encapsulates Everton more than any unique design ever could.
Jacko93
Player Valuation: £35m
My guess is that NFL matchday income would be higher, as you can eat and drink in the stands during an NFL match.
BullensRoad
Player Valuation: £30m
The internal design is very generic compared to the original 60k. It''s essentially a square bowl, home end isn't the overwelming home end originally promised. The only unique aspect of it has to be the smaller 2 tiered northern stand.
Big Neville Southall
Player Valuation: £8m
Thanks Tom, interesting as always.
So one thing we have then is the rail seats in the front half. Considering that you only have 1 or 2 blocks who take up the responsibility of regular singing, which is lead by a smaller number within that, I think we are looking at fans chanting into an open space.
I know there's evidence that says that singing at the front is louder than singing at the back, but I reckon that's based on 50% crowd participation in that stand.
The reality is not like that, it's more like 5% of a stand.
This is why I have suspected that the design lends itself to an Ultra lead singing area rather than our traditional way of a small group of fans trying to get songs to spread.
For me, they need a section of rail seats at the very back, maybe even in the corner where as you say they have acoustic enhancing effects.
Big Neville Southall
Player Valuation: £8m
I personally think there's been a compromise somewhere. Eg, in order to improve natural light(that's a guess not a fact) they've sacrificed a closer roof distance, you can't do everything in a design sometimes it's one or the other.
