New Everton Stadium

[bernie inn]

Echo all over this dockside arena.

Link?

 

[andy4efc]

Splitting hairs. The difference between that and a bowl is negligible. The hermits out there could probably calculate the difference to a few degrees. I don't think it makes much difference, but I do know that the Emirates is far superior to the New Den, and that most of the better stadiums in this day and age have a bowl-like design.

The Emirates is way too far away from the pitch, as is the carbon copy, Estadio De Luz, as is Wembley. Would miss the tall, imtimidating fans. That's way the Dortmund/Koln style is the best, IMO. YOu get that stands towering over you, while being close to the pitch regardless as to whether you're on the front row or second tier. Bowls generally don't follow the pitch.

I dont mind hte bowlshape on the outside, it's the inside bowlshape that worries me.

 

[kithnou]

For me I'd like a stadium like Dortmund's, stands that are joined together rather than a bowl shape

Splitting hairs. The difference between that and a bowl is negligible. The hermits out there could probably calculate the difference to a few degrees. I don't think it makes much difference, but I do know that the Emirates is far superior to the New Den, and that most of the better stadiums in this day and age have a bowl-like design.

Respectfully, if that stadium doesn't impress you significantly more than a bowl stadium, then I would guess you are in the absolute minority here.
A beautiful football stadium is that.

 

[BoysInBlue]

Link?

There's loads.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/vote-should-evertons-new-stadium-11355659

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/images-show-vast-scale-potential-11351698

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/could-new-everton-stadium-prove-11358133#rlabs=3 rt$category p$1

The best bit is the comments on each article. The Kopites are terrified and doing the usual attempted putdowns on every single article, but they're just showing themselves up as utterly terrified that we've finally got a billionaire who can actually get things done.

 

[kithnou]

There's loads.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/vote-should-evertons-new-stadium-11355659

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/images-show-vast-scale-potential-11351698

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/could-new-everton-stadium-prove-11358133#rlabs=3 rt$category p$1

The best bit is the comments on each article. The Kopites are terrified and doing the usual attempted putdowns on every single article, but they're just showing themselves up as utterly terrified that we've finally got a billionaire who can actually get things done.

And then you get former players being all negative shock!

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/spor...s/new-everton-waterfront-stadium-ill-11357592

New Everton waterfront stadium? I'll believe it when it happens says Ratcliffe

Everton hero Ratcliffe: 'I’ve almost given up - there always seems to be an obstacle in the way'

A general view of Goodison Park (Photo by Jan Kruger/Getty Images)
There has been a certain amount of excitement from Evertonians this week about the prospect of reviving the idea of building a new stadium by the Liverpool waterfront but until it actually happens I can’t get carried away.

I’ve almost given up in some respects because there always seems to be an obstacle in the way.

Where should Everton's new stadium be: Waterfront or Croxteth?
It’s very disappointing that yet another project to build a new stadium has again been shelved in the shape of Walton Hall Park so we can only hope that the club might finally be getting it right with their latest attempt at relocating from Goodison Park.

To me, it doesn’t seem like we’ve been getting the right help from the right people or even pointed in the right direction and I don’t think money is the only issue.

Clarence Graving Dock on Regent Road looking towards Trafalgar Dock (left) and Collingwood Dock (right). A possible site for Everton Football club stadium.


One of the big issues if the stadium is built by the waterfront will be transport. All those years ago when we were hoping to build at Kings Dock there was talk of a new road going all the way in from the M62. Well they've built the arena there now and still haven't built one.

When you get to Liverpool from the motorway it's still another half an hour to get to the Mersey.

 

[Coffee and TV]

Splitting hairs. The difference between that and a bowl is negligible. The hermits out there could probably calculate the difference to a few degrees. I don't think it makes much difference, but I do know that the Emirates is far superior to the New Den, and that most of the better stadiums in this day and age have a bowl-like design.

I think it's quite noticably different to a bowl stadium tbh, maybe it's more noticable when it's empty. If you look at the Westfalenstadion compared to a bowl arena like the Emirates it's completely different - much steeper and the upper levels feel closer to the pitch.

 

[Saint Domingo]

And then you get former players being all negative shock!

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/spor...s/new-everton-waterfront-stadium-ill-11357592

New Everton waterfront stadium? I'll believe it when it happens says Ratcliffe

Everton hero Ratcliffe: 'I’ve almost given up - there always seems to be an obstacle in the way'

A general view of Goodison Park (Photo by Jan Kruger/Getty Images)
There has been a certain amount of excitement from Evertonians this week about the prospect of reviving the idea of building a new stadium by the Liverpool waterfront but until it actually happens I can’t get carried away.

I’ve almost given up in some respects because there always seems to be an obstacle in the way.

Where should Everton's new stadium be: Waterfront or Croxteth?
It’s very disappointing that yet another project to build a new stadium has again been shelved in the shape of Walton Hall Park so we can only hope that the club might finally be getting it right with their latest attempt at relocating from Goodison Park.

To me, it doesn’t seem like we’ve been getting the right help from the right people or even pointed in the right direction and I don’t think money is the only issue.

Clarence Graving Dock on Regent Road looking towards Trafalgar Dock (left) and Collingwood Dock (right). A possible site for Everton Football club stadium.


One of the big issues if the stadium is built by the waterfront will be transport. All those years ago when we were hoping to build at Kings Dock there was talk of a new road going all the way in from the M62. Well they've built the arena there now and still haven't built one.

When you get to Liverpool from the motorway it's still another half an hour to get to the Mersey.

After a while you get fed up with some ex Everton pros. They're so negative. Least the kopites ninths media, senseless as they are, back the club to the hilt. Half of our former players seem to just want to not rock the boat and keep us mediocre. Hopefully Moshiri iaignoringvthe noise and is doing what is best for Everton.

 

[bernie inn]

Ratcliffe is one of the most depressing negative people going when it comes to Everton

 

[BoysInBlue]

And then you get former players being all negative shock!

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/spor...s/new-everton-waterfront-stadium-ill-11357592

New Everton waterfront stadium? I'll believe it when it happens says Ratcliffe

Everton hero Ratcliffe: 'I’ve almost given up - there always seems to be an obstacle in the way'

A general view of Goodison Park (Photo by Jan Kruger/Getty Images)
There has been a certain amount of excitement from Evertonians this week about the prospect of reviving the idea of building a new stadium by the Liverpool waterfront but until it actually happens I can’t get carried away.

I’ve almost given up in some respects because there always seems to be an obstacle in the way.

Where should Everton's new stadium be: Waterfront or Croxteth?
It’s very disappointing that yet another project to build a new stadium has again been shelved in the shape of Walton Hall Park so we can only hope that the club might finally be getting it right with their latest attempt at relocating from Goodison Park.

To me, it doesn’t seem like we’ve been getting the right help from the right people or even pointed in the right direction and I don’t think money is the only issue.

Clarence Graving Dock on Regent Road looking towards Trafalgar Dock (left) and Collingwood Dock (right). A possible site for Everton Football club stadium.


One of the big issues if the stadium is built by the waterfront will be transport. All those years ago when we were hoping to build at Kings Dock there was talk of a new road going all the way in from the M62. Well they've built the arena there now and still haven't built one.

When you get to Liverpool from the motorway it's still another half an hour to get to the Mersey.

Ratcliffe was a great player but as a pundit he is a clueless idiot. He was the one saying last summer that the club would sell Stones as soon as the bidding reached £30m.

 

[Dixie D]

I think it's quite noticably different to a bowl stadium tbh, maybe it's more noticable when it's empty. If you look at the Westfalenstadion compared to a bowl arena like the Emirates it's completely different - much steeper and the upper levels feel closer to the pitch.

Dortmund's stadium is Sexual chocolate!
The Emirates is Pap!...hope this helps

 

[bernie inn]

Haven't liked Ratcliffe since he couldn't be arsed finding out how to pronounce Jagielka, and instead resorted to D'jelka

 

[Callum_efc]

A new stadium that isn't a dome would be great! against the grain of what peoples perceptions are of new stadia. Would make it unique in the UK at least. Would look ace on the docks. Only issue being that logistically domes create more seats and therefore more corporate boxes which Everton have been miles behind tonnes of clubs in the past.

 

[kithnou]

A new stadium that isn't a dome would be great! against the grain of what peoples perceptions are of new stadia. Would make it unique in the UK at least. Would look ace on the docks. Only issue being that logistically domes create more seats and therefore more corporate boxes which Everton have been miles behind tonnes of clubs in the past.

100% with you. Depending if it is needed to be used for any other sporting events though I would assume. Otherwise, if it is solely Everton's ground, then go the 4 steep sides.

 

[BiggyRat]

Everton hero Ratcliffe: 'I’ve almost given up - there always seems to be an obstacle in the way'

Well, wasn't there a historically significant area found when they were building Liverpool 1? I recall looking down onto it from ground level outside. If we're building in roughly the same proximity from the river, then there's a fair chance he might be right.

100% with you. Depending if it is needed to be used for any other sporting events though I would assume. Otherwise, if it is solely Everton's ground, then go the 4 steep sides.

Developers would be mad to build something like this without due consideration of other potential uses. Concerts, Commonwealth games, Papal visits...all contribute to the value of the stadium.

 

[TheFinnFan]

You could think that Ratcliffe has turned his coat and went to the dark side.