New Everton Stadium

[Jxg]

Nonsense.

We would never get close to selling out a 60,000 seater stadium. It would be a total waste of money to build a ground so large.

Yeah, good luck with that.

Not a fan of multi-quote, matey?

It is a total waste of money not to build a ground at least that large. Unless it can be expanded really, reeeaaaallllyy inexpensively, you'll be losing a lot of money in the long term.

You never know. The board just might see sense and drop prices.

Also, what goat said.

 

[Brennan]

Not a fan of multi-quote, matey?

It is a total waste of money not to build a ground at least that large. Unless it can be expanded really, reeeaaaallllyy inexpensively, you'll be losing a lot of money in the long term.

You never know. The board just might see sense and drop prices.

Also, what goat said.

What Goat said has zero relevance to anything.

How would we be losing money in the long term by not building a ground we would never fill ? Strange logic to say the least. A new ground does not guarantee success or a huge increase in home support which would be required to start selling out a 60,000 seater stadium on a regular basis.

 

[ijjysmith]

Can someone please some the whole stadium situation up for me. Bullet pointed.

- It's
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- Sell
- Season
- Tickets
- Probably

 

[Toffeelover]

When football was affordable for all.

Not quite, the weekly wage was a lot lower then. The difference was that there was just standing in the lowers and so more bodies could be crammed in. At that time there was no such thing as a maximum limit.

 

[Toffeelover]

City fill their stadium with kids for a quid, theres ways to make it affordable.

Yep, if we have a big new stadium, no excuse for you lot, have to take your girl friends or man friends, wives and kids, treat them to a pint and a pie at halftime, no problem and don't forget going for a drink at the end of the game with all the family..

 

[Jxg]

What Goat said has zero relevance to anything.

How would we be losing money in the long term by not building a ground we would never fill ? Strange logic to say the least. A new ground does not guarantee success or a huge increase in home support which would be required to start selling out a 60,000 seater stadium on a regular basis.

Goat provided a handful of statistics which disproved your statement that "we would never fill 60,000 seats".

Losing money in the long term? We should be aiming to expand constantly. Eventually, we will get to a point where 50,000 seats won't be enough. That will come sooner than you think. It'll cost more to start an extension project than it will to have built an extra 10,000 seats during the original construction.

 

[Brennan]

Goat provided a handful of statistics which disproved your statement that "we would never fill 60,000 seats".

Losing money in the long term? We should be aiming to expand constantly. Eventually, we will get to a point where 50,000 seats won't be enough. That will come sooner than you think. It'll cost more to start an extension project than it will to have built an extra 10,000 seats during the original construction.

Those attendances were all more than thirty years ago

 

[Big Neville Southall]

It has to be built for expansion. 50000 is a fine starting point but we want this to be the springboard to bigger and better things on a regular basis. Each stand should capable of either holding an extra tier, or an extra x number of rows of seats.

 

[Jxg]

Those attendances were all more than thirty years ago

Continue the ignorance, I guess. I'm out.

 

[quasi modo]

We're not moving are we? What did anyone expect from Bill and Bob?

 

[BoysInBlue]

A new ground does not guarantee success or a huge increase in home support

Average gates before and after stadium moves:

Arsenal: 38,184 (05/06); 60,045 (06/07) - Increase of 22,000.
Man City: 34,564 (02/03); 46,834 (03/04 - City were utter crap this season, finished 16th) - Increase of 12,000.
Sunderland: 20,974 (96/97 - relegated); 33,492 (97/98 - first season in new stadium was in the Championship) - Increase of 13,000.
Derby County: 17,889 (96/97); 29,105 (97/98) - Increase of 12,000.
Middlesbrough: 18,807 (94/95); 29,257 (95/96) - Increase of 11,000.
Bolton: 15,826 (96/97); 24,352 (97/98) - Increase of 9,000.
Southampton: 15,115 (00/01); 30,633 (01/02) - Increase of 15,000.
Leicester: 19,835 (01/02); 29,231 (02/03) - Increase of 10,000.

There's 8 stadiums for you. There's others I can add to the list if you want.

It is a basic given that you open a new stadium, you attract more fans. Anything from 9,000 to 22,000, right here. People are attracted to nice, shiney new things with modern facilities and no posts in the way.

It does guarantee a pretty sizeable increase in home support.

 

[peteblue]

 

[Muzumbu]

We're not moving are we? What did anyone expect from Bill and Bob?

yep never gonna happen, just Billy Bullfaeces up to his usual ways

 

[sbbefc]

Average gates before and after stadium moves:

Arsenal: 38,184 (05/06); 60,045 (06/07) - Increase of 22,000.
Man City: 34,564 (02/03); 46,834 (03/04 - City were utter crap this season, finished 16th) - Increase of 12,000.
Sunderland: 20,974 (96/97 - relegated); 33,492 (97/98 - first season in new stadium was in the Championship) - Increase of 13,000.
Derby County: 17,889 (96/97); 29,105 (97/98) - Increase of 12,000.
Middlesbrough: 18,807 (94/95); 29,257 (95/96) - Increase of 11,000.
Bolton: 15,826 (96/97); 24,352 (97/98) - Increase of 9,000.
Southampton: 15,115 (00/01); 30,633 (01/02) - Increase of 15,000.
Leicester: 19,835 (01/02); 29,231 (02/03) - Increase of 10,000.

There's 8 stadiums for you. There's others I can add to the list if you want.

It is a basic given that you open a new stadium, you attract more fans. Anything from 9,000 to 22,000, right here. People are attracted to nice, shiney new things with modern facilities and no posts in the way.

It does guarantee a pretty sizeable increase in home support.

Not saying you're wrong but a lot of those clubs have a very low starting point. I think our average will increase but probably the least out of all those clubs, maybe 2000-5000. There's only a handful of games a season we sell out and it obviously depends on our results on the pitch.

Also those stats only show the season after the build, obviously a lot of fans will be curious to visit their new stadium in the first season. Do you know if the trend continued or did attendances fall back?

 

[leelead]

If we built a 50,000 seater which could expand in the future with another 10-20,000 then we would be laughing