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New Everton Stadium

Anyone else think providing the Liverpool Waters project starts to kick off that the new stadium will set us up for the future?

I dont know why but I feel whilst we may be gash now, in 5/10/15 years time we'll receive massive investment from this stadium move and will finally get back to where we belong. Make no mistake the biggest mistake the kopites ever did was stay in that backwater and not establish themselves as part of a massive regeneration project like this.

It's about vision. The Liverpool Waters might not be as bold and as ambitious as they've written about (World Heritage Status seeing to the city scape being dwarf 'skyscrapers'), but it'll still be vibrant and a continuation of the waterfront from the city centre.

As long as the club gets the stadium right that is. We don't know yet but our Tottenham friends are showing the way we have to match that. We should be as ambitious. They talk the talk about the stadium now walk the walk. Right now so much change on and off the pitch.
 
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Anyone else think providing the Liverpool Waters project starts to kick off that the new stadium will set us up for the future?

I dont know why but I feel whilst we may be gash now, in 5/10/15 years time we'll receive massive investment from this stadium move and will finally get back to where we belong. Make no mistake the biggest mistake the kopites ever did was stay in that backwater and not establish themselves as part of a massive regeneration project like this.
I think Bill will still be here. So no. ;)
 
I saw ome images of the new Spurs stadium recently from rendered pics.

The stadium looks a bit boring and nothing unique about it.

These corporate bowls personally all look the same and soulless,no character about them.

My favourite stadium which i find visually fantastic and has character is Ibrox.
 
I saw ome images of the new Spurs stadium recently from rendered pics.

The stadium looks a bit boring and nothing unique about it.

These corporate bowls personally all look the same and soulless,no character about them.

My favourite stadium which i find visually fantastic and has character is Ibrox.

Ibrox is just a bigger Ewood, and essentially what Kirkby would have been, dull and unimaginitive when looking through the eyes of the 2010s. That main stand is the only interesting bit of the stadium for me.
 
I saw ome images of the new Spurs stadium recently from rendered pics.

The stadium looks a bit boring and nothing unique about it.

These corporate bowls personally all look the same and soulless,no character about them.

My favourite stadium which i find visually fantastic and has character is Ibrox.

That Ibrox looks so old fashioned, uninspiring and dare I say it boring.

I’d prefer the Spurs stadium design any day of the week and twice on a Sunday but that’s me.

Wouldn’t want an oversized Ewood Park
 

FWIW here are the reasons given for the decision to go for an oval stadium to replace WHL:
(document @ http://www.planningservices.haringey.gov.uk/portal/servlets/AttachmentShowServlet?ImageName=424934)

6.8. Alternative Stadium Designs

(i) Introduction
There are three potential stadium designs that were considered by the club to achieve the required capacity
and facilities. These include the traditional four stands, four stands with corners filled in and an oval design.

(ii) Four Stands
6.8.2. This form of stadium was considered to be an inefficient use of land and results in taller and deeper stand to
accommodate the same amount of seating as the latter two designs. The open corners allow sound and
light to escape readily from the stadium and so would have the potential to adversely affect the amenity of
adjacent areas. This design would not provide a modern iconic stadium for the club. As a result the Club
decided early in the design process to discard this design.

(iii) Four stands with filled in corners

6.8.3. This design would be more efficient than the open cornered design and the design does overcome the noise
and light escape issues identified in relation to the open corner design described earlier. However, this
design does not provide the optimum space within the stands and results in more seating in the corners and
this seating being at distance from the pitch. It can also results on long flat elevations and would give rise to
constrained crowd flow at the corners on the site and lead to a flat roof design that is less interesting in
architectural terms. These forms of stadium are shown overlaid on the site with rounded corners and
square corners on Figures 6.1. In both cases it is evident that the result would be constrained circulation on
the site and impact on both listed buildings and the southern terrace along Worcester Avenue.

(iv) Oval
6.8.4. The review of stadium design identified that a stadium that is oval in plan provides better proportioned
space for hospitality functions. It also performs better than the other stadium designs at containing noise
and light spill. The design has a slightly smaller foot print that the former design and so enables the stadium
to be located so as to reduce its direct impact on the Conservation Area and Listed Buildings along the High
Road. The oval design offers easier crowd flow in an urban location and the location of the entrances in the
“corners” respond to transportation, evacuation and availability of open space. It also provides a modern
design and provides an iconic home for the Club. Therefore this design was the preferred option.

This is from 2010, so relates to the previous stadium design (which was scrapped), but the design being built follows the same principles albeit slightly more squared off and with a very distinct home end breaking up the bowl. Whilst externally it's definitely an oval, the way the internals have been designed does give the feel of four stands with corners filled in much more than other oval stadiums.

The leaked documents and renders suggest Meis is looking at four stands with corners filled in for you. But they might not be up-to-date since the CWG bid was lost and the club have announced they're looking at a more ambitious capacity. If Everton are pushing for a more ambitious capacity, as claimed, and they're still planning on using the same relatively small site, then I wouldn't be surprised if the more efficient option of an oval becomes the preferred layout for the same reasons quoted above.
 
Anyone else think providing the Liverpool Waters project starts to kick off that the new stadium will set us up for the future?

I dont know why but I feel whilst we may be gash now, in 5/10/15 years time we'll receive massive investment from this stadium move and will finally get back to where we belong. Make no mistake the biggest mistake the kopites ever did was stay in that backwater and not establish themselves as part of a massive regeneration project like this.
Watch us drop out due to not being able to pay our share, then have them swoop in to rob the stadium designs and be in the stadium by 2019/20. :lol:
 
Did I miss something?

The pages from the BuroHappold document (deleted from this forum, presumably because they're real and weren't meant to be made public) showed a basic design like that, and also showed pedestrian flow diagrams with that kind of stadium layout. And the renders which were likely created for the Liverpool CWG bid (released in January by the studio that produced them) matched what that document showed... (see http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=144393139&postcount=552).

How much has changed since is the question. As I said, if they're trying to get more seats on the same site, maybe the whole concept has changed.
 

FWIW here are the reasons given for the decision to go for an oval stadium to replace WHL:
(document @ http://www.planningservices.haringey.gov.uk/portal/servlets/AttachmentShowServlet?ImageName=424934)



This is from 2010, so relates to the previous stadium design (which was scrapped), but the design being built follows the same principles albeit slightly more squared off and with a very distinct home end breaking up the bowl. Whilst externally it's definitely an oval, the way the internals have been designed does give the feel of four stands with corners filled in much more than other oval stadiums.

The leaked documents and renders suggest Meis is looking at four stands with corners filled in for you. But they might not be up-to-date since the CWG bid was lost and the club have announced they're looking at a more ambitious capacity. If Everton are pushing for a more ambitious capacity, as claimed, and they're still planning on using the same relatively small site, then I wouldn't be surprised if the more efficient option of an oval becomes the preferred layout for the same reasons quoted above.

The corners will be filled in, but its squared off. Like a chamfered Rectangle.
 

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