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New round of covid boosters. Will you get yours?

Will you book acovid booster?

  • No

    Votes: 57 51.4%
  • Yes

    Votes: 49 44.1%
  • Conspiracy theory on toast

    Votes: 5 4.5%

  • Total voters
    111
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What do you mean by that second paragraph mate?
Well I didn't want to make the point I was trying to say, too much about me... ( That's why it was so vague )

Basically all I know is what has been told to me, but I missed a meal that had been booked on a Tuesday, cos I was totally gone from covid, by the friday they had got really worried from not hearing from me so came round to check and I'd been flat out in a nice pool of blood for 4 days so called ambulance and got me to hospital. I was then in hospital for a week all wired up and still not with it, the covid brought on a massive bout of seizures which in turn caused me to be in a nice pool blood, and ended up bringing on serious pneumonia as I didnt have any food or fluid intake for 4/5 days. so If it wasn't for a random meal they wouldnt of come to check on me and well I wouldn't be here now. ( I didn't know any of it other than what was explained after when I finally started coming back round ) I was basically gone for 10 days.

That was the simplest way I could explain that without going too in depth..
 
Mr. pathological contrarian is back spreading anti-vax information simply because his life didn't turn out as planned. Can you imagine taking a small issue about fast-mutating respiratory virus (selectively using alt-right conspiracy theorist Jack Posobiec as your "evidence") and thinking you've somehow managed to tear down the entire edifice of science. All because you've discovered the concept of breakthrough infections--something that happens more so in fast-mutating viruses spread through air (versus say slower mutating viruses spread through sexual contact). Quite literally, the quote our tendentious huckster posts--"Our data from the CDC today suggest that vaccinated people do not carry the virus"--exactly confirms how and why science works, not how it doesn't. One bases health policy on the data at hand, and updates it regularly, as does science.

What goes unmentioned by this clown is that if everyone actually got vaccinated at the earliest possible time, instead of playing idiotic and dangerous political games and spreading misinformation, then the vaccine would have been more contained, as it was based on minimizing existing variants, not future variants that would occur because some fools decided to let the virus mutate inside them because they didn't get vaccinated. But this is lost on Mr. I-understand-science-better-than-scientists-despite-being-an-amateur-photographer.

Our idiot fraudster tried to suggest vaccines don't work in the Omicron era by linking this post and to these data. What Mr. "I'm smarter than every scientist alive despite having no background in science" doesn't tell you is that his so called data are so cherry-picked it's laughable. First, the data only go up to May 2022, conveniently the month that Mr. some-of-my-siblings-and-friends-have-stopped-talking-to-me decided to highlight in his highly selective post. Second, it is widely known that as more of the population is vaccinated, the per capita death rates will possibly increase among vaccinated as these are the people who are more likely to have preconditions, get vaccinated, yet not survive in spite of them (and vaccine protection wears off with time). Third, the cherry-picked data from May 2022 in the UK are contradicted by this:


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And these are some data that I (admittedly quickly) generated using the whole available data set in the UK, not the cherry-picked data who chose to use the month of May 2022 to spread anti-vax information.

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I'm sorry your parents didn't hug you enough but kindly go spread your idiotic and dangerous claims on another forum. You are unwell, and dangerously so.

And no, I'm not gonna respond to you, you alt-right fraud.
The only thing you forgot to say was MOONCALF ;)
 
Vaccines do prevent transmission - in that if you are less likely to catch it, you are less like to transmit it.
That does not appear to be the case, especially in the Omicron era.

Anecdotally, vaccinated appear to be catching Covid more often than unvaccinated. It would be useful to see official data on this.


They went all in with black and white, when it is/was more grey.
The public should be given a little more credit. Black/white-thinking is rarely useful.

When you have hospitals overflowing, not enough staff to care for patients, running out of sedatives required to intubate people, require multiple refrigerated trucks for storing dead bodies, and have to consider protocols for rationing care (and all this is NOT hyperbole. It was happening), some corners will be cut to save lives. Greater good and all that.
Good point. In your experience did it seem heavier than bad flu years?

Mr. pathological contrarian is back spreading anti-vax information simply because his life didn't turn out as planned.
Why are you getting personal? What do you know about my life? I'm doing alright, as it happens.

Weird attack-angle, tho'.

Can you imagine taking a small issue about fast-mutating respiratory virus (selectively using alt-right conspiracy theorist Jack Posobiec as your "evidence") and thinking you've somehow managed to tear down the entire edifice of science.
Who mentioned Posobiec? I didn't link him in this thread. I merely linked the own words of 'experts' we all know.

Another odd angle here.

I'm sorry your parents didn't hug you enough but kindly go spread your idiotic and dangerous claims on another forum. You are unwell, and dangerously so.

And no, I'm not gonna respond to you, you alt-right fraud.
This kind of stuff reveals a lot more about you than it does me.

I almost feel sorry for you.


"When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do sir?..."
At the beginning of the pandemic I was open to the idea of vaccinations.

But then the facts changed...thus, I changed my mind.

Well I didn't want to make the point I was trying to say, too much about me... ( That's why it was so vague )

Basically all I know is what has been told to me, but I missed a meal that had been booked on a Tuesday, cos I was totally gone from covid, by the friday they had got really worried from not hearing from me so came round to check and I'd been flat out in a nice pool of blood for 4 days so called ambulance and got me to hospital. I was then in hospital for a week all wired up and still not with it, the covid brought on a massive bout of seizures which in turn caused me to be in a nice pool blood, and ended up bringing on serious pneumonia as I didnt have any food or fluid intake for 4/5 days. so If it wasn't for a random meal they wouldnt of come to check on me and well I wouldn't be here now. ( I didn't know any of it other than what was explained after when I finally started coming back round ) I was basically gone for 10 days.

That was the simplest way I could explain that without going too in depth..
Blimey, Swartzy! Really glad you're ok now x
 

Well I didn't want to make the point I was trying to say, too much about me... ( That's why it was so vague )

Basically all I know is what has been told to me, but I missed a meal that had been booked on a Tuesday, cos I was totally gone from covid, by the friday they had got really worried from not hearing from me so came round to check and I'd been flat out in a nice pool of blood for 4 days so called ambulance and got me to hospital. I was then in hospital for a week all wired up and still not with it, the covid brought on a massive bout of seizures which in turn caused me to be in a nice pool blood, and ended up bringing on serious pneumonia as I didnt have any food or fluid intake for 4/5 days. so If it wasn't for a random meal they wouldnt of come to check on me and well I wouldn't be here now. ( I didn't know any of it other than what was explained after when I finally started coming back round ) I was basically gone for 10 days.

That was the simplest way I could explain that without going too in depth..
Sounds horrible. Good that you're back with us and I hope you are not feeling any longer term effects?
 
A crap attempt to simplify with what information was available while said information was rapidly evolving and growing. Health literacy in the US is abysmal (since your videos are US based). They were using a quick sound bite to get a more complex explanation disseminated to people who exist in a world with a very short attention span.
Further to this:

if we accept that Covid-19 is a dangerous virus, then what does it ultimately mean that these 'experts' telling the world in those black 'n white terms that getting vaccinated would stop them getting & transmitting it?

It means of course they were brutally irresponsible, inhumanely so. Possibly causing the deaths of millions. Because most vaccinated folk believed them, and acted accordingly (mingled in crowds etc, believing themselves to be safe).


Your argument cannot have its cake and eat it.
 
Well I didn't want to make the point I was trying to say, too much about me... ( That's why it was so vague )

Basically all I know is what has been told to me, but I missed a meal that had been booked on a Tuesday, cos I was totally gone from covid, by the friday they had got really worried from not hearing from me so came round to check and I'd been flat out in a nice pool of blood for 4 days so called ambulance and got me to hospital. I was then in hospital for a week all wired up and still not with it, the covid brought on a massive bout of seizures which in turn caused me to be in a nice pool blood, and ended up bringing on serious pneumonia as I didnt have any food or fluid intake for 4/5 days. so If it wasn't for a random meal they wouldnt of come to check on me and well I wouldn't be here now. ( I didn't know any of it other than what was explained after when I finally started coming back round ) I was basically gone for 10 days.

That was the simplest way I could explain that without going too in depth..
Glad you are good now mate, sounds like a horrific experience
 

Sounds horrible. Good that you're back with us and I hope you are not feeling any longer term effects?
Cheers m8, and thanks to you all...

I really didn't want to effect this thread with my own situation. I was just trying to get my point across regarding the jabs.
So I'm not going any deeper in to my Situation/Experience.
I will just say that after having not heard of it before, Long Covid Is a real thing and it its not a nice partner...

But forgetting Covid for a sec, I am on here, I am suffering the same 'old strain' of Everton as you all.
I can have a laugh in your online presence, Get jealous at what you've just ate, or the weather in other 'posters' neck of the woods. And generally chat about plenty of things not regarding 'Football'.

So in that respect, All's good
 
Cheers m8, and thanks to you all...

I really didn't want to effect this thread with my own situation. I was just trying to get my point across regarding the jabs.
So I'm not going any deeper in to my Situation/Experience.
I will just say that after having not heard of it before, Long Covid Is a real thing and it its not a nice partner...

But forgetting Covid for a sec, I am on here, I am suffering the same 'old strain' of Everton as you all.
I can have a laugh in your online presence, Get jealous at what you've just ate, or the weather in other 'posters' neck of the woods. And generally chat about plenty of things not regarding 'Football'.

So in that respect, All's good
Yeah,fair dos mate. And on that note, let's get back to petty squabbles, sparring and other such japes!
 
That does not appear to be the case, especially in the Omicron era.

Anecdotally, vaccinated appear to be catching Covid more often than unvaccinated. It would be useful to see official data on this.



The public should be given a little more credit. Black/white-thinking is rarely useful.


Good point. In your experience did it seem heavier than bad flu years?


Why are you getting personal? What do you know about my life? I'm doing alright, as it happens.

Weird attack-angle, tho'.


Who mentioned Posobiec? I didn't link him in this thread. I merely linked the own words of 'experts' we all know.

Another odd angle here.


This kind of stuff reveals a lot more about you than it does me.

I almost feel sorry for you.



At the beginning of the pandemic I was open to the idea of vaccinations.

But then the facts changed...thus, I changed my mind.


Blimey, Swartzy! Really glad you're ok now x
Getting a bit confused now. So you’re not the guy who was banned from a part of this forum for promoting donkey paste to combat serious disease?
 

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