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Newcastle Utd (and Viz)

catcherintherye said:
Yes I mean it's hard, as it has a lot of history. Goodson has a lot of history too, but it;s facilities are very dated.

Re buying the league, it's certainly not something I subscribe too, Everton and Liverpool benefitted massively from John Houldings wealth initially. They then benefited (more Everton) from the Moores wealth. In between that there have been, as you say all sorts of clubs with lots of money. I'm not sure how anyone can begrudge anyone else.

I am not making a philosophical point to you though. It's not an issue of fans making barbed jibes (mainly from supporters of clubs who have spent more than most teams for years and don't like a taste of their own medicine) but a practical reality. The owners of these clubs are incredibly petty. They will make it bureaucratically difficult for you, especially as they will see it as City 2.0. I'm not saying you won't overcome this, I tend to subscribe to the view you can't halt progress, but it will delay things. Some of that will be preventing massive sponsorships of the stadium (qualitatively more than you have spent) and if you try it imposing transfer bans.

I should make clear, this isn't what I would do, but it's what they will do. I said to a Newcastle fan the other day who was goading me a bit, it doesn't worry me either way. Partly because I don't tend to get overly worried about such things, but also because I worry about Everton-we have a very wealthy owner who's willing to give us money to spend, so thats my main concern, not what others will do. But also practically I don't see this massively affecting Everton either way.

It goes two ways the takeover broadly. It's either not as we anticipate, in which case you are starting from a much lower base than we are currently (jin terms of squad quality, European recognition etc) and if we keep moving forward we will keep our distance from you. Or option 2 it does go as some suggest, and you become the new City/Chelsea and drop billions on transfers over coming years. In which case, we won't be shopping in the same pool for the most part. You will be targeting the top teams targets, and unsettling their players.

And thats the crux with this, if it's option 2 we end up at, they are going to become very resentful very quickly. Like in all seriousness, Liverpool don't pay players the going rate of what they could earn. If your view was "to hell with the consequences" you could go and offer VVD £500k per week and he would be tempted. It's a bit of a nightmare for their model, which relies on some degree of common sense, and inflation being kept under control.

There may be a bit of competition over lads like Coutinho this summer, but I sense we will nip in firstly as we are in a better position. By next summer I suspect we will be in different spheres, one way or another.

There's a bit of dislike for Newcastle currently, but honestly if you started disrupting Liverpool and to a degree Manchester United, and stopped them winning trophies, that feeling would change quite quickly!
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More likely it'll be closer to option 1, than 2. Like you say, there are plenty for whom the status quo is something they'll defend to their last.

I don't think we're at the level (even with the money) to attract the likes of Coutinho. No Europe, currently a wholly unattractive manager, dated stadium and facilities. Better chance of approaching and attracting a player like Eduoard from Celtic.
 
The Fish said:
More likely it'll be closer to option 1, than 2. Like you say, there are plenty for whom the status quo is something they'll defend to their last.

I don't think we're at the level (even with the money) to attract the likes of Coutinho. No Europe, currently a wholly unattractive manager, dated stadium and facilities. Better chance of approaching and attracting a player like Eduoard from Celtic.
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I don't know which option it would be but it could be either. However in fairness either one probably doesn't impact upon us in quite the way people think it might.

As for Eduoard I really like the player, but sense he may want European football. It's hard though, we found this, you end up offering players lots of money to join, but then there is a question about the sort of person that signs primarily for money.

In a lot of ways I'll probably contradict myself, and say maybe having Benitez for a bit, while you try and sort out the backroom side of it might work. He can just identify who he wants, you'll probably pay a bit more than they are worth as tends to be the case with Benitez, but in general he has a good eye.
 

The Fish said:
American Oil has.
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All oil is plummeting today apparently.

I wrote about this yesterday. The contraction in what we are seeing in the market is a major issue. Probably far more important than anything I've said thus far. It looks as if Saudi are about to enter into a prolonged oil war with America. The long term trends also look as if the value of oil will drop, and we may even move away from the petro-dollar as a reserve currency. All of these things could lead to an enormous belt tightening, and reduction of influence from Arabic states.
 
The Fish said:
More likely it'll be closer to option 1, than 2. Like you say, there are plenty for whom the status quo is something they'll defend to their last.

I don't think we're at the level (even with the money) to attract the likes of Coutinho. No Europe, currently a wholly unattractive manager, dated stadium and facilities. Better chance of approaching and attracting a player like Eduoard from Celtic.
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lol lol lol Christ listen to yourself you deluded head patter.
 

mikeh72 said:
We waited until something happened before we got giddy to be fair to us.
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Not sure.....we have a player that has 1 good game and think he is messi.....same the other way....they are out ofdepth etc.

We get proper over-excted about everything.

Look at how most ppl are already acting with Usmanov...and have done for a while now.
 

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