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Newcastle Utd (and Viz)

Mat70s said:
Yeah fair enough.

The additional hurdle for Newcastle compared to 2009 is that City entered this rarified world as the only state-backed operation and the PL wasn’t quite so financially dominant as it is today.

Right now in England you can be one of the top 15 richest clubs in the world but only the 6th/7th richest in the league.

Newcastle are now attempting to disrupt a very well-established hierarchy that won’t suddenly become weaker just because another club has moved in.

This is brutally tough. There will probably be some missteps along the way.
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City aren't "officially" state backed though. The company that own City are a private investment group. They also handed all control over to Al Murbarak who runs the operation.

Now, you'd be silly not to bet that funds do come from the royal family pot but Mansour owns that many investment firms, businesses, and is on the board of that many government councils, that they'll overlap each other in terms of money coming in to fund whatever...it'll be a minefield.

Newcastle's owners are just 100% funded by the Saudi state. There's no separation. Unless there is and it's the most flimsy "separate" company ever.

There's no rule to say that can't be allowed. But there is a ruling about the business the funds are coming from that doesn't endorse or fund criminal activity. PIF is least transparent public fund in the world. So...yeah. Not ropey
 
YoboCopter said:
Surely its a very real possiblity they can actually go down this season?

hopefully
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They could quite conceivably be bottom by the time the window opens.

Norwich (who are poor) have a slightly easier set of fixtures.

Newcastle fans gush over St Maximin because he stands out next to his woeful teammates, not because he's especially productive.

20 points by the window would be a miracle.
 
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tsubaki said:
Not sure that is the proper way - it might have been for Ashley’s time (when they were actually run as a business) but this lot are surely not going to accept patient development of players / upgrades over time.
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They are not going to be signing huge names straight away no matter how much money they throw at it. Listened to some Euro football guy talking about it the other day and he was saying they have nothing to offer the big name players other than money. Those types of players want to be playing in the CL and in Europe in general. They want to play at clubs with the best facilities and the nicest grounds and live in a decent area. They have a very tricky run of games before they even get to the winter window (notoriously hard to buy in) and could easily be firmly entrenched in the bottom 3 by that time. It's going to take time regardless of if they like it or not. They need an entire squad of players and a squad is 25, only st maximim is the one passible player who might get kept on under a new manager the rest are just rubbish and most managers will tell you that bringing in too many players at once causes issues. I get they are excited but Newcastle fans are going to get a bit of a shock imo as I don't think this will go quite how they think it will.
 
Simon Buttle said:
They are not going to be signing huge names straight away no matter how much money they throw at it. Listened to some Euro football guy talking about it the other day and he was saying they have nothing to offer the big name players other than money. Those types of players want to be playing in the CL and in Europe in general. They want to play at clubs with the best facilities and the nicest grounds and live in a decent area. They have a very tricky run of games before they even get to the winter window (notoriously hard to buy in) and could easily be firmly entrenched in the bottom 3 by that time. It's going to take time regardless of if they like it or not. They need an entire squad of players and a squad is 25, only st maximim is the one passible player who might get kept on under a new manager the rest are just rubbish and most managers will tell you that bringing in too many players at once causes issues. I get they are excited but Newcastle fans are going to get a bit of a shock imo as I don't think this will go quite how they think it will.
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Spot on, talk of bids for an 'Unhappy' Harry Kane are mental.

He wants to win something.

He'll be retired by the time Newcastle are serious contenders.
 
FFP will surely be as much of an issue for them as it is for us?

I have no doubt they'll climb up the table, whether it's this season or in the next 5 years, it will happen. Winning something is a completely different kettle of fish though.

As we all know FFP is all about maintaining the status quo. We need a squad salary cap to solve the issue and that's never going to happen!
 

tsubaki said:
Not sure that is the proper way - it might have been for Ashley’s time (when they were actually run as a business) but this lot are surely not going to accept patient development of players / upgrades over time.
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I think they are, because ultimately it'll be Staveley and Rueben running it.

There'll be an initial boom - next summer you'd imagine - where they spend pretty big but there won't be any world class players, mind.

Stavely has said, it's a 5-10 year project.
 
catcherintherye said:
Which is fine, but they are not going to be challenging for the top 6, never mind the title with Tarkowskis of this world.
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I didn't say they would be.

But by the time Everton have moved into BMD, I would be surprised if ourselves and Newcastle aren't around the same level. Let's face it, we're hardly a million miles ahead as it is.
 

Sky are killing themselves going overboard trying to think of something just so they can keep ramming Newcastle down people's TVS etc, saying stuff like
"Newcastle United boss Steve Bruce is spotted leaving the Newcastle training ground". do they know he leaves everyday and actually has to leave the Ground to go Home lol
 
efcfanwirral said:
www.liverpoolecho.co.uk

Newcastle takeover could lead to £75m Everton transfers

Following Newcastle's takeover, here are a few Everton players the club may look to target
www.liverpoolecho.co.uk www.liverpoolecho.co.uk

This is grade A trolling from the Echo. Not usually a fan but fair play for this one. You'll see why when you see the list
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I nearly choked on my cuppa reading those quotes from Staveley. “Newcastle deserves to be top of the Premier League”. No they don’t, that’s why they’re in the bottom 3 lol
 
Cool_Blue said:
I nearly choked on my cuppa reading those quotes from Staveley. “Newcastle deserves to be top of the Premier League”. No they don’t, that’s why they’re in the bottom 3 lol
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ForeverBlue92 said:
You can see why the Saudi's picked Newcastle and targetted the RS - both fanbases who would tow the sports washing line 110%

Other clubs fanbases whilst happy with the investment wouldnt be going overboard with the love in of Saudi such as putting Saudi flags in their twitter name, wearing tea towels on their heeds etc.
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City fans were wearing towels as well, back in 08...
 

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