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Player Valuation: £80m
My faith is being sorely tested?
it is for all of us. I have had my faith tested many times since the early sixties.
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My faith is being sorely tested?
Why is it a shambles? We're out of the competition, it's a friendly. Should just play the kids anyway and let Unsy have his last game with no pressure.Unsworth in charge for Atalanta. SHAMBLES.
No wonder we get called bitter lollollolSo catastrophic that they were able to get 7th pretty much without instruction from that divvy Koeman in the season after RM left.
Take a look at this situation now: it's a devastated football club. On the floor in terms of personnel quality and levels of morale.
Dont pretend the two scenarios are remotely the same. We are now facing a long march out of the wilderness.
Thats who we are. Dont try to be someone else like...be your selfNo wonder we get called bitter lollollol
Always have been myself mate...just not been involved in a jizz fest over EFC managers...lollollolThats who we are. Dont try to be someone else like...be your self![]()
We are all entitled to our opinions. But lets add a bit of reality.
Estoril - Hats off that is good achievement. Turned a second tier side into a midtable top tier side. Any better than what Dyche has achieved with Burnley and the lowest salary in the premier league? I am going to say no.
Sporting - Finishes third in a three team league with the one of the top three teams. A cup is fine, but like I said Sporting are one of the most successful side in Portuguese history.
Olympiacos - Had won the league for 6 season previously and the one since he left. This is an incredibly weak league.
Hull - arrived with Hull three points off safety. They finished 6 points from safety. They had some good results in that time.
Watford - They have started well this season. But so has Dyche (with a significantly lower wage bill).
I am suggesting although he has done well he hasn't overachieved. We are in danger of looking back and saying what was all the fuss about.
Going back to your question: So why is he highly thought of in footballing circles and why is he rumoured to be on the radar of the likes of Arsenal and Man Utd as a Future Manager?
Because football is a hype machine and he is the latest craze.
I hope I am proved wrong
What you have just said there about him being “decent for us” is exactly it really, I think he would be nothing more than stable/decent where as Silva has that bit of unpredictability about him. He could be very good!Jamie Carragher gave a very good analysis of why he thinks Dyche isn't getting the offers from bigger clubs and why Marco Silva is so sought after.
I won't repeat it but it all comes down to style of football and how their teams play and was why Rodgers and Martinez were also popular even though they were not always so much of a success with their former clubs.
I'm a Dyche fan (unusually for this forum, and actually think he would be decent for us in our present state) but the stats did starkly show how limited his game plan is.
It can all be qualified as to the type of player he is able to have at little Burnley and that style suiting that level of player much better than any other, but statistically he is getting better results. There is an argument with better players he would change and not play so long.
Dyche does have the best record, but it's that long ball stigma that he is now synonymous with that could prove a real deterrent for any ambitions he may have of getting a bigger club.
As long as Silva is in charge for the Southampton gameI'm not sure what everyone expects.
Clearly trying our best to get Silva, no point in rushing in another manager we don't want in charge if the club believe they will eventually get their man - which I think the will, otherwise this long drawn out saga will have been embarrassing.
We are all entitled to our opinions. But lets add a bit of reality.
Estoril - Hats off that is good achievement. Turned a second tier side into a midtable top tier side. Any better than what Dyche has achieved with Burnley and the lowest salary in the premier league? I am going to say no.
Sporting - Finishes third in a three team league with the one of the top three teams. A cup is fine, but like I said Sporting are one of the most successful side in Portuguese history.
Olympiacos - Had won the league for 6 season previously and the one since he left. This is an incredibly weak league.
Hull - arrived with Hull three points off safety. They finished 6 points from safety. They had some good results in that time.
Watford - They have started well this season. But so has Dyche (with a significantly lower wage bill).
I am suggesting although he has done well he hasn't overachieved. We are in danger of looking back and saying what was all the fuss about.
Going back to your question: So why is he highly thought of in footballing circles and why is he rumoured to be on the radar of the likes of Arsenal and Man Utd as a Future Manager?
Because football is a hype machine and he is the latest craze.
I hope I am proved wrong
That would mean appointing him on Friday or Saturday. It doesn't seem likely.As long as Silva is in charge for the Southampton game
Jamie Carragher gave a very good analysis of why he thinks Dyche isn't getting the offers from bigger clubs and why Marco Silva is so sought after.
I won't repeat it but it all comes down to style of football and how their teams play and was why Rodgers and Martinez were also popular even though they were not always so much of a success with their former clubs.
I'm a Dyche fan (unusually for this forum, and actually think he would be decent for us in our present state) but the stats did starkly show how limited his game plan is.
It can all be qualified as to the type of player he is able to have at little Burnley and that style suiting that level of player much better than any other, but statistically he is getting better results. There is an argument with better players he would change and not play so long.
Dyche does have the best record, but it's that long ball stigma that he is now synonymous with that could prove a real deterrent for any ambitions he may have of getting a bigger club.
Because it's been a month lad and everyone at the club knows Unsworth is last on the list.Why is it a shambles? We're out of the competition, it's a friendly. Should just play the kids anyway and let Unsy have his last game with no pressure.
Thought you wanted Fat Sam mate???Lots of talk about Pulis being favourite to manage us next last hour or so.
Bloke I know who is a bookie reckons it's a done deal and was lined up over international break.
Tone will keep us up, hope it's true.
It is feeling that way but I think this week!That would mean appointing him on Friday or Saturday. It doesn't seem likely.
Maybe by West Ham or Huddersfield or Limassol or the RS or Newcastle..........and so on and so on.