Next manager discussion (poll reset 21/05/2016)

[Jozzy]

Frank De Boer took over an incredible Ajax squad, the line up for his first ever line up at Ajax was:

They went on to beat AC Milan 2-0 at the San Siro that game, they also had Vurnon Anita, Mounir El Hamdaoui, Daley Blind, Andre Ooijer, Kenneth Vermeer, Oleguer Presas and Nicolas Loderio avaliable in the squad. De Boer also had players like Joel Veltman, Ricardo Van Rhijn, Davy Klaassen, Jasper Cillessen and Mitchell Dijks on their way out of the youth sides making a play for the senior squad.

I think I could've managed this side and still won the league, we won the league for the next three years and you have to give him credit for that but he hasn't been able to maintain that standard, the fans have started to form a dislike for him, they've failed to win the league for the last two seasons and he's never once made it past the group stage in the Champions League.

Frank De Boer took over a bloody good Ajax, the biggest club in the league, won the title (as they were expected to do so) and has failed to do exceed any further expectations. Can someone please tell me whats so appealing?

 

[KevMirallas]

You are all successfully making every manager in the world seem awful.

 

[Axlswhk]

I can't stand another season of keep ball side way 50 passes before we had a shot at goal.
For that de boer is out for me.
Rather had Unsworth than some other illusionall keep ball freak philosophy

 

[Dymak]

Anyone but FDB! We will be subjected to another three years of being told he is trying to bring a more continental style of football to Everton, a style which just isn't suited to the Premier League. I really hope we avoid him.

 

[Eggs]

...I've gone for 'other' because I genuinely haven't got a clue.

 

[nsno-chris]

Frank De Boer took over an incredible Ajax squad, the line up for his first ever line up at Ajax was:

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They went on to beat AC Milan 2-0 at the San Siro that game, they also had Vurnon Anita, Mounir El Hamdaoui, Daley Blind, Andre Ooijer, Kenneth Vermeer, Oleguer Presas and Nicolas Loderio avaliable in the squad. De Boer also had players like Joel Veltman, Ricardo Van Rhijn, Davy Klaassen, Jasper Cillessen and Mitchell Dijks on their way out of the youth sides making a play for the senior squad.

I think I could've managed this side and still won the league, we won the league for the next three years and you have to give him credit for that but he hasn't been able to maintain that standard, the fans have started to form a dislike for him, they've failed to win the league for the last two seasons and he's never once made it past the group stage in the Champions League.

Frank De Boer took over a bloody good Ajax, the biggest club in the league, won the title (as they were expected to do so) and has failed to do exceed any further expectations. Can someone please tell me whats so appealing?

The age of that team though wow

I'm very meh about De Boer something doesn't seem right.

 

[Nymzee]

Frank De Boer took over an incredible Ajax squad, the line up for his first ever line up at Ajax was:

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They went on to beat AC Milan 2-0 at the San Siro that game, they also had Vurnon Anita, Mounir El Hamdaoui, Daley Blind, Andre Ooijer, Kenneth Vermeer, Oleguer Presas and Nicolas Loderio avaliable in the squad. De Boer also had players like Joel Veltman, Ricardo Van Rhijn, Davy Klaassen, Jasper Cillessen and Mitchell Dijks on their way out of the youth sides making a play for the senior squad.

I think I could've managed this side and still won the league, we won the league for the next three years and you have to give him credit for that but he hasn't been able to maintain that standard, the fans have started to form a dislike for him, they've failed to win the league for the last two seasons and he's never once made it past the group stage in the Champions League.

Frank De Boer took over a bloody good Ajax, the biggest club in the league, won the title (as they were expected to do so) and has failed to do exceed any further expectations. Can someone please tell me whats so appealing?

Some of those players are great, some not so much. He was never going to replace a Suarez or an Eriksen with a like-for-like player so how can he improve on his expectations (win the league, go far in Europe) with a squad that gets poached every year? It sounds like some of you are just purposely trying to make a manager sound really bad. He lost the league this season on the last day he didn't lose it like a month before the end of the season.

 

[BoysInBlue]

I think Koeman is doing at Southampton what Moyes was doing at Everton all those years ago. Fair play to him.

Fans have a tendency to look at just the last year or two in isolation - wider picture for Koeman;

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I look at all those teams, he has been quickly moved on in succession and wonder...

That's a good point, but many of us would have taken Mourinho too, and his CV is very similar to that in terms of length of time spent at a club.

If someone can come in and get us into the top 4 and win us a trophy or two, then if if they do decide to leave in 3 years time, at least we'd be in a better position for the next manager to come in and pick us up.

I don't think we should get hung up too much on wanting a manager to stay for many years. Moyes was a huge rarity. Sometimes change is good and exciting. Not saying I want a Chelsea-type revolving door sitiuation, but it's good to keep everyone on their toes, players and fans.

 

[Francis_Blue]

De Boer focuses on defensive play apparently

He mainly use 4-3-3 attacking formation, and possession football

 

[Eric Djemba-Djemba]

The more I hear about De Boer the worse he sounds.

Verdict - SWERVE

 

[Toffeeslam]

Martinez biggest failing was he pretty much didn't bother with defending and left us wide open at the back.

You can't do anything in any league without a defensive structure and i don't see that with FdB.

stubborn sure but he won't neglect the tge defensive side like Martinez did I'm sure

 

[TheHumbleEgg]

You are all successfully making every manager in the world seem awful.

Yep, that's how it feels now...

I have shame as the more I read the more I consider MOYES as a possible purely because he knows us and there's no bedding in period attached

And they'll be fitter, the players, so that's good innit. And...hmmm, I'm struggling now TBH...

I've never before considered this really, perhaps I'm just having a 'moment', I mean - I feel fine but I may be coming down with something because it's not a rational train of thought is it?

But everyone else is rubbish it seems, despite them winning things, and managing in Europe, and in World Cups, an' all that...the more I read the crapper they all sound. You'd think ANYTHING would be an improvement on the last one wouldn't ya...the pound-shop GUARDIOLA with ideas above his station... that we poached on the back of a relegation and a spunky FA CUP win...

It seems not.

Pfff....

It's confusing. All of it.

 

[CynicalBlue]

I'd settle for his record at Ajax if he can replicate it at Everton.

 

[LocalNative]

Ah yes.

The man that has only won a single Premier League title and two League Cups despite having a transfer budget much bigger than any other team in the League.

Pellegrini (since joining City in 20013) - 1 PL, 2 League Cups, 59.9 win %
Mourinho (since rejoining Chelsea in 2013) - 1 PL, 1 League Cup, 58.8 win %

Now pipe down. If people were seriously wanting Mourinho, then Pellegrini should certainly not have been dismissed based on a shoddy year.

 

[toffee matt]

Martinez biggest failing was he pretty much didn't bother with defending and left us wide open at the back.

You can't do anything in any league without a defensive structure and i don't see that with FdB.

stubborn sure but he won't neglect the tge defensive side like Martinez did I'm sure

Martinez 's biggest failing was that he wasn't a competent football manager