Next manager discussion (poll reset 21/05/2016)

[edge]

Was talking to a mate today who in all fairness is generally clued up on football. What scared me is when I was ranting about Martinez was his reply, which I think generally represents the image of Everton as a whole.

He came back to me with, "apart from Moyes, is there really anyone else out there not free who would go to Everton?" He's never been disparaging about Everton before, and it spoke volumes really. We're seen from the outside as a whole as we were pre-Moyes, just another old club with its best days behind us. With how influential the media appear to be these days in the hype surrounding new managers, will we be able to attract the top quality? Honestly think that's what is needed, if anything, just to keep our four best players at the club. Without those players we're looking at another three years at least to get back to where we are now.

just tell him Bobby is currently in the top twenty highest paid manager in the world,that leaves quite a few that wouldn't mind a crack at his job and wages

 

[Groucho]

Do you think it's significant that the echo are writing about rumours that the club are contacting people? I feel like normally the club would stop them printing this sort of stuff, maybe in exchange for an exclusive with one of the players or something. These last few weeks it's like the echo have suddenly started sticking the boot in on Martinez.

Yes it suggests he's on borrowed time.

 

[royalblue66]

Bielsa rumour, just waiting confirmation from Metro.

 

[allen]

Yes it suggests he's on borrowed time.

Given the way The Echo tread the club line, there's a chance this article could be a message to the fans from the club.

Just imagine how furious they'd be with their pals at the paper if there was no truth in it. Let's see how this plays out.

 

[allen]

Given the way The Echo tread the club line, there's a chance this article could be a message to the fans from the club.

Just imagine how furious they'd be with their pals at the paper if there was no truth in it. Let's see how this plays out.

Scratch all that. I see this report originated in South America. It's also well down the Everton news feed on the Echo site with a big 'rumour' attached to the headline.

 

[MikeH72]

What people need to realise is that whilst Biesla inspired managers like Guardiola and Pochettino, both of those amongst others took the basis of his high pressing game and TWEAKED it.

Basically Biesla (like Martinez) adapts the purest forms of their philosophy with little in terms of a plan B.

my own personal opinion is that he would be a bad appointment, his temperament and stubbornness may have us as frustrated as we currently are under Roberto, alongside the fact the bloke hasn't won any trophies in the game.

If we don't go for a top manager like Mourinho or Emery then we really do need to aim for a Mancini or Pellegrini.

My god the Pellegrini shouts really need to do one. Look at him, he's fed up, bored and looks ready for retirement. The only significant thing he's ever won is a Premier League with the most expensive ever team in this country, and a title that was gifted to him by Slippy G

 

[kithnou]

Given the way The Echo tread the club line, there's a chance this article could be a message to the fans from the club.

I'd feel terrible for Roberto were that to be the case.
Be classy.

 

[Groucho]

Given the way The Echo tread the club line, there's a chance this article could be a message to the fans from the club.

Very possibly mate.

 

[Groucho]

I'd feel terrible for Roberto were that to be the case.
Be classy.

Just before you feel too bad for him take a moment to think of the three years remaining on his contract that will be paid up.

 

[kithnou]

Just before you feel too bad for him take a moment to think of the three years remaining on his contract that will be paid up.

I actually asked that in here a few days ago, and was told they don't pay put anymore? They now just keep paying him until his next job I was informed?
Otherwise, if no agreement is in place or can be reached, do we pay him the full 9m?

 

[Houghty19]

Agree with groucho here I don't feel sorry for him. Although football managers tend to get sacked regularly they do get paid very well and like Bobby are either paid up or kept on gardening leave until another job comes along. A bit different to the real world that if you're sacked that's your lot.

 

[chazzle_dazzle]

Just before you feel too bad for him take a moment to think of the three years remaining on his contract that will be paid up.

This 100%... he will be well looked after should he depart.

 

[Darth Toffeeman]

I actually asked that in here a few days ago, and was told they don't pay put anymore? They now just keep paying him until his next job I was informed?
Otherwise, if no agreement is in place or can be reached, do we pay him the full 9m?

So 3 years full pay it is.

 

[kithnou]

So 3 years full pay it is.

If Gary Neville can get a gig in Spain, I am sure Roberto can.

 

[jceverton]

Just on Bielsa, while he's been managing in Europe does anyone know has he had any financial backing at all?