NFL Thread

[SerenityNigh]

They are just awful, though. Miserable.

Do you like the colors? What are the current colors, anyway? I'm not necessarily of the "teams in black commit more fouls/are more aggressive" type, but a player can buy into the team history/brand/hype or, at worst, not even care because the team has none of these. No doubt the Jags have great fans, but do you think it's hard to buy in when the team has no history of success?

Relatedly, I think the Bengals need to ditch that tiger stripe stuff, at least on the shirts. Or maybe I'm just showing my arl arse.

 

[Darth Toffeeman]

Both were in the process of becoming rubbish, and he hasn't found a key to turning it around in either place. He's learning how to be an owner, and he's been a good one here, with the exception of the team being putrid. We're really not on watch for a move like we had been for many years. "You can be a global brand without physically moving the team." That's their story, and they're sticking to it so far.

They are just awful, though. Miserable.

I thought he might have turned Fulham around tbh. He clearly has finances but some of his decisions have been baffling. I honestly cannot remember the last time the Jags put on a winning streak either.

 

[glorydaze]

I thought he might have turned Fulham around tbh. He clearly has finances but some of his decisions have been baffling. I honestly cannot remember the last time the Jags put on a winning streak either.

Struggling to remember last time they won!

 

[SerenityNigh]

I thought he might have turned Fulham around tbh. He clearly has finances but some of his decisions have been baffling. I honestly cannot remember the last time the Jags put on a winning streak either.

Give him some time there, they would be an interesting team if turned around. I think they'd have wide appeal across America given the right environment in the club.

 

[Darth Toffeeman]

Give him some time there, they would be an interesting team if turned around. I think they'd have wide appeal across America given the right environment in the club.

Fulham?

 

[SerenityNigh]

Fulham?

America loves an underdog

 

[Darth Toffeeman]

America loves an underdog

With such close proximity to Chelsea i could see that. But do most Americans who like football already have a team?
My friends, even the most casual, would all give you an answer to an NFL team they prefer. One of my mates has always like the Seahawks as they constantly failed to win the SB. He didn't know what to think last February

 

[SerenityNigh]

With such close proximity to Chelsea i could see that. But do most Americans who like football already have a team?
My friends, even the most casual, would all give you an answer to an NFL team they prefer. One of my mates has always like the Seahawks as they constantly failed to win the SB. He didn't know what to think last February

No doubt many Americans have a team already, but I think there are quite a few ripe for a team that have never had a team. Until 2-3 years ago it wasn't that easy to watch a match, outside of the random United-Chelsea match that a major network would have on Saturday morning mid-winter after the college football games were finished and before college basketball becomes interesting.

Now, especially with NBC, you can watch most teams on TV or at least through a dodgy website. There are quite a few reasons that your average American can be drawn to a team, and while some of them are less than perfect reasons, once you get pulled in its hard to turn away. My wife is a Florida graduate and die-hard gator, but she hasn't even watched a game this season. To be fair, they're horrible under Muschamp. But still, every weekend she asks when we're going to watch Everton.

Back on topic, no small number of Americans (allegedly, presumably) are drawn to Tottenham as the Arsenal alternative. Not simply because they like Spurs, at least not initially, but because they like being Arsenal's rival. (Granted, there are a large number of Arsenal fans in America, so don't let me get carried away with the example...). I'm not sure this would work for all teams, like Villa, but Fulham could do well picking up support among Americans.

 

[SerenityNigh]

With such close proximity to Chelsea i could see that. But do most Americans who like football already have a team?
My friends, even the most casual, would all give you an answer to an NFL team they prefer. One of my mates has always like the Seahawks as they constantly failed to win the SB. He didn't know what to think last February

Missed the comment on your Seahawk friend when I first read--hope he enjoyed it. The NFL is a league of great parity. Where it excels is that every team has hope to upset the balance of power, and teams in power aren't usually (these days) in power very long. This seems to appeal to most, and I think many Americans feel similarly about smaller English clubs. What remains to be seen is whether newer American converts remain lifelong faithful to a club. Some leagues (NBA specifically) are player leagues, and outside of college football, most sports aren't entirely territorial (or at least largely in certain regions).

 

[obc]

Bill Simmons probably is responsible for 10% of US Spurs fans.

 

[SerenityNigh]

Bill Simmons probably is responsible for 10% of US Spurs fans.

I read that when I was getting my bearings

 

[obc]

I read that when I was getting my bearings

Likewise, which is why I recalled it a decade later in typing here. My buddy Rod is likely a Spurs fan from this. They're the only "bigger money" club I bear no malice to.

 

[mezzrow]

Do you like the colors? What are the current colors, anyway? I'm not necessarily of the "teams in black commit more fouls/are more aggressive" type, but a player can buy into the team history/brand/hype or, at worst, not even care because the team has none of these. No doubt the Jags have great fans, but do you think it's hard to buy in when the team has no history of success?

Relatedly, I think the Bengals need to ditch that tiger stripe stuff, at least on the shirts. Or maybe I'm just showing my arl arse.

No, I don't. I don't know who these guys are in the new clown suits. Many are worse (Bucs, Falcons, Bengals) but the newer kits are like characters from Transformers blown into football players. This is what my Jags look like.

Jim Brown's favorite running back:

 

[mezzrow]

Fred's worth another post.

 

[ilikecheese]

Is there a more overrated player in the NFL than Cam Newton?