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Shocked at people having a go at Koeman for being honest about the players' abilities. Would those of you saying this prefer Martinez telling you everything stinks of roses again? People having a go at him for being honest with the fans about an issue they were concerned and uninformed about is ridiculous, many of the supporters were confused at the first 6 months of Oumar's career with us and Koeman gave us a definitive answer that had been lacking and people were looking for at the time.
Is the correct answer.
Humiliated?
Pull up the quotes from Koeman that you would say have humiliated him.
Made to play with the U23s? He had options to go elsewhere, nobody made him stay Dave, he chose to stay and this is the consequence of that choice.
Denied access to basic facilities?
We're still letting him train and use all of that equipment aren't we? So he doesn't have his own locker for the U23s. so what? He was never meant to play with them and was given the opportunity to go elsewhere when it was made clear to him he was not going to be part of the first team. The point of the U23 team is to get the U23 players ready for the first team. He's not an U23 player and was likely not expected to be part of their plans for this season and so he's victim of "first come, first served" in the locker room. What's the big cry over anyway? It is just a place to put his gear while he shows up to play footy, whether it is in his bag or in a locker it is going to be secured by Everton's staff.
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He's the only one who we can definitively say had some involvement with that deal.
That's all there is to it. He was never meant to be an U23 player this season, he had the option to leave but chose to stay and this is his lot.
But, for me, giving him a squad number would be a statement that he's somehow good enough for Everton.
Not allocating him a number says we have standards, which he does not meet (and he clearly doesn't).
I don't want nice-guy Everton all the time, sometimes we have to be snide.
Papa Shango
Player Valuation: £70m
Where are you going to boo him? Whilst he is sat on his couch?
Papa Shango
Player Valuation: £70m
Its also saying "he's crap, who wants to buy him?" As we then sit there and wonder why nobody came in for him.
Its just a very odd way of doing things.
Perhaps but if the world knows he's crap anyway.....
But teams reportedly did come in for him and we were willing to loan him.
This isn't the first time a manager has been public that a player isn't up to the standard. Other teams will still try and sign those players as we did with Pienaar.
Papa Shango
Player Valuation: £70m
I get the feeling he isnt as crap as we think he is.
Thats not saying he is good or anything but he must have more to him than we have seen otherwise he wouldnt have had any career whatsoever.
Not saying we will get back anywhere near what we paid or him but you shouldnt be wanting to devalue him completely either.
As I said, doesnt really bother me, its not my money, but its an odd way of going about things.
Eggsyblueskin
Player Valuation: £40m
Fair enough. For what it's worth I think Martinez was badly let down by the board in regard to player recruitment. The failure to procure the playmaker he requested stands out. Too much time was wasted pursuing Yarmelenko. Niasse was a panic buy similar to Valencia this season. It was a massive misjudgement , a partly understandable act of desperation by a manager for whom the wheels were slowly falling off. It was Martinez's call though, and it was wrong.
EFC78
Player Valuation: £25m
I agree with you, but can't help but think that there may be more to it. Did anything ever develop over him getting arrested for assault? Maybe he is a bad egg in the dressing room, although I find it hard to believe.
He clearly isn't good enough but some of our fans just revel in the opportunity to slaughter a player before they're given a chance. For once they look to have been proven right over Niasse's ability and now they feel it's given them some sort of credibility in their constant ridiculing of most of our first team squad lol. As bad as Niasse has looked, it's over exaggerated amongst the fanbase and it's not the first time that someone has been labelled "the worst player they've ever seen".
Some may say it's hard to feel sorry for someone earning thousands of pounds a week, but I genuinely feel sorry that it hasn't worked out for the lad. Would have been a big move for him at the time and it's a shame he's ended up not being good enough. Hopefully an acceptable conclusion will be reached with him in the coming months but i'd like to see the club act with a bit more integrity in how they treat him during that time. Especially when we usually act with a lot more class than so many clubs out there.
joey_macmo
Player Valuation: £35m
hes got a squad number hasn't he?
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