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Panorama to question ownership of Everton

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Yarrgh said:
It's an interesting question. I made my comment in jest, but in reality, I think this would be a devil of a job for a bank to prove and in fact track down.

How would the bank be able to prove that the money stolen was used on this particular item or not on other things, and actually legitimately gained funds were spent to make the purchase? How much would it take for the bank to chase it down? If it was in cash then it's unlikely to be over £8k, certainly less than £15k (otherwise the HMRC would have to be contacted I think). I don't think a bank would chase that down after 2 years, especially if the car (or whatever) was sold and sale amount returned to the bank. I think you'd be in the clear. I do not know, I am only thinking aloud. If you have a source of info that I could look at I would be interested to find out.
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Only from watching crime dramas
I am under the impression that if a bank can prove that you have or have received in the past , money stolen from them then it can be claimed back
Stolen artwork , sold to an unsuspecting buyer who bought it in good faith is still legally owned by the person from whom it was stolen from
 
I liked the way Mosh used the term ‘fiver’ with the reporter, I wasn’t expecting that for some reason, it shows he does talk reality (or discussing previous transfer budgets with BK).
 
Hannu said:
the bbc reported it asif we was doing something illegal, it is not illegal to own 2 or more clubs, it is completely legal, you could own 5 and its legal its just the premier leagues self imposed rules that have no legal standing anywhere

just the premiere league will not allow you to compete in the league if you do, but they have no legal powers, apart from them saying you cant play with us they can not do anything
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This sort of comment is so strange.

It’s not just the PL It’s the FA, UEFA and FIFA rules .

The way the leagues, cups indeed all football is set up is you in effect are invited to play.

Part of the process is that you have to agree to abide by competition rules

Ok we have no idea what happens from here on but be unde4no illusion if there is a proven link there would be repercussions one way or another
 

terraloon said:
This sort of comment is so strange.

It’s not just the PL It’s the FA, UEFA and FIFA rules .

The way the leagues, cups indeed all football is set up is you in effect are invited to play.

Part of the process is that you have to agree to abide by competition rules

Ok we have no idea what happens from here on but be unde4no illusion if there is a proven link there would be repercussions one way or another
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i know this but panorama trying to make out we are breaking the law is false, no laws have been broken and it is highly irresponsible to portray the story in the way they did, who owns everton and arsenal has nothing to do with tax dodging
 
Hannu said:
Omg the bbc said somthing we have all known for ages and this place goes into meltdown

give ur heads a wobble

its a well known fact Usmanov gave mosh the shares as he has done with giving him shares in some of the other companies he owns, how the hell did you think mosh got his money, u dont get to be worth 2.4B by just doing accounts
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It doesn't matter whether we've all known, just a lot of people would rather have transparent ownership of the club. People who get so blinkered just because they don't want anyone saying anything mean about their football club is bizarre. If we feel it's our club and part of our community we should be worried about who owns it, just because we're aware of whisperings of the underhand deals doesn't make it okay
 
Yarrgh said:
It's an interesting question. I made my comment in jest, but in reality, I think this would be a devil of a job for a bank to prove and in fact track down.

How would the bank be able to prove that the money stolen was used on this particular item or not on other things, and actually legitimately gained funds were spent to make the purchase? How much would it take for the bank to chase it down? If it was in cash then it's unlikely to be over £8k, certainly less than £15k (otherwise the HMRC would have to be contacted I think). I don't think a bank would chase that down after 2 years, especially if the car (or whatever) was sold and sale amount returned to the bank. I think you'd be in the clear. I do not know, I am only thinking aloud. If you have a source of info that I could look at I would be interested to find out.
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I often wonder what would happen if you found yourself to be in possession of a forged banknote, given to you in change in a shop or pub.

Say a tenner.

And you brought it to a bank or even to Plod.

Would you be given a proper tenner in its place......or would you be patted on the head for doing your civic duty and be expected to go to the loss of it yourself :blush:
 

Khalekan said:
I often wonder what would happen if you found yourself to be in possession of a forged banknote, given to you in change in a shop or pub.

Say a tenner.

And you brought it to a bank or even to Plod.

Would you be given a proper tenner in its place......or would you be patted on the head for doing your civic duty and be expected to go to the loss of it yourself :blush:
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you would be ten pound down.

otherwise i'd be printing fakes and taking them to the plod so that I got a real'un in exchange!
 

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