Saint Domingo
Player Valuation: £90m
By that logic Martinez hasn't got two brain cells? Jags was captain for our record breaking season though. I think you need to judge his captaincy long term and not be so short termist.
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By that logic Martinez hasn't got two brain cells? Jags was captain for our record breaking season though. I think you need to judge his captaincy long term and not be so short termist.
roydo
in memoriam - 1965-2024
Exactly. In football, the captain means jack.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
You watch what happens this summer - Van Dijk will be snapped up by Koeman or go to a club in a decent league on the continent.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
I see that he's done a fine job over his career here. No question. If you're happy with his patchy form over the past couple of seasons and aren't concerned with that heading into another season, fair enough. I think we should get rid for a few quid and move on.
I disagree, Roy Keane, John Terry and sadly Steven Squarehead are all excellent captains who have gained their teams so many penos, red cards and all sort of trickery over the years.
Woolly Blue
Player Valuation: £80m
You just don't like him mate, which colours your judgement. All players have drops in form now and then
Disagree, defensively he reads the game very well, not so much going forward, but primarily his job is to stop the opposition scoring.
Wouldn't argue with that though
Not desperate, but he ain't getting any younger so yes, we need another centre half pushing for a first team place, two actually, one proven and one up and coming. Maybe Galloway will be the latter ?
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
Stones + Jagielka + Galloway + experienced CB (not Alcarez, obviously!).
We should be looking to start next season with that.
I dont dislike Jagielka, by the way. It's just obvious he's looked lackadaisical at times, especially around the late Autumn/ early winter. Not the attitude I expect of a club captain. I dont think I'm alone in remembering that.
roydo
in memoriam - 1965-2024
No, they are all excellent players. The captain of a football team is pretty irrelevant in a match.
Ratcliffe was our captain in the 80s. Reid, Nev, Gray, Mountfield, probably more, could have done it, (they probably did at times I guess).
He doesnt seem to be the most inspiring leader of men, granted, but a good team, shouldnt really need just one leader on the field.
I would bet real fruit gums, that the 66 WC England side were "captained" on the pitch by Ball, Stiles and Charlton. For example.
I think thats part of the "problem", we dont have many leaders on the pitch, Stones, Besic, McCarthy and Naismith are all excellent talkers, even Osman, but then youve got ya Baines, Jags, Barry, Howard and a few others that barely make a peep.
roydo
in memoriam - 1965-2024
Would not disagree mate. Assuming your apparent admiration for Besic isnt a wind up, (I love him btw, he is signing my birthday present apparently), to me, when he matures, nailed on. And even if he doesnt wear a little armband.
I do possibly overplay Besics talent, a little, but I do think hes a very good player with a LOT of potential to be Superb.
But I love the way he talks, John Stones is the same, neither of them shut up during games, geeing people up, making sure everybody knows whos got who, as you say, neither of them need the band to do that, they would do it regardless.
roydo
in memoriam - 1965-2024
I love the lad. NEA
I can no longer rationalise why I love him so much, I wasnt lying the other day, I actually ignored the game and watched him warm up for 5-10minutes.
Saint Domingo
Player Valuation: £90m
Still for me a really good CB we'd struggle to replace without shelling out a load. Some of his good performances have been unfone by calamity Tim. Still remember how good he was in Moyes' last derby.
roydo
in memoriam - 1965-2024
Guy Love.
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