Phil Jagielka

[a bell maul]

Sheesh, some people on this forum don't half drone on endlessly.
When do they sleep?

I wish it was more often.

 

[davek]

Goal threat to us you mean.

Hes a walking mistake.

Isolated examples of getting caught on his heels.

A £9m player who'd fetch £25m minimum after a season with us where he's done very well.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

....do you really sacrifice his goal threat to accommodate an average CB who's utterly eclipsed now by Willaims?

Not for me.

lol

As a defender he's nowhere near as solid as Jags, and that's his job like.

 

[Goat]

Isolated examples of getting caught on his heels.

A £9m player who'd fetch £25m minimum after a season with us where he's done very well.

Its funny you mention heels, especially after his latest picture.



What even is he wearing.

 

[davek]

Only he's part of our present and playing very well, that truth bruises your ego David.

Hey Ho.

Your right, he's the past and present. My point is that he's not the future. He won't be here this time next season. I'm convinced of that.

 

[LinekersLegs]

...and in that time we've won nothing and looked vulnerable under all those managers from crosses...including this one (take a look at the West Brom goal...a shambles he was responsible for).

If he's the level you want, good luck to you. Personally I want the best in there.

Typical Davek the contrarian, we have a feel good evening (both on and off the pitch) and barely 24 hours later you are trying to stir up arguments lol

And yes, as long as Jags plays to the level he usually does I'm delighted to have him leading out our team.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

Isolated examples of getting caught on his heels.
.

No. Numerous examples of him being a mistake waiting to happen. He's on the bench because a former world class CB thinks he's not worthy of the shirt ahead of Jags, but of course you know better lol

 

[davek]

lol

As a defender he's nowhere near as solid as Jags, and that's his job like.

You think VVD is that different to Mori? Koeman will look to blend his CB pair as he did at S'ton. Williams will eventually be captain and he'll either promote Mori or buy in a new CB...as he was about to this summer.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

Typical Davek the contrarian, we have a feel good evening (both on and off the pitch) and barely 24 hours later you are trying to stir up arguments lol

And yes, as long as Jags plays to the level he usually does I'm delighted to have him leading out our team.

This ^

He's been sound this season so far, and since the addition of Williams we've not shipped a single goal, but Dave feels the need to plough on with his Jags agenda regardless.

 

[collymcd]

yesterday I'm. pretty sure they both had their own blocking competition going on because Williams made about 3 superb blocks and I remember Jags doing 2, one in particular in the 88th minute where he absolutely hurled himself at the ball. That's a nice habit to have that, working for the clean sheet let alone the 3 points.

It's a joy to see. Personally speaking these type of players are my favourite above all. The art of defending is underrated by many

 

[Saint Domingo]

Think Jagielka is the best we can have?

You sell us short. He's bang average and part of our past. The truth hurts.

He's been one of the premium centrebacks in the premier league since about 2007. He's come through an ACL injury and three managers yet has managed to remain first team and captain for all of them as well as starting centreback for England in a World Cup. Your definition of 'average' is ridiculous. Every time you proclaim he's finished he just proves you wrong again. A fantastic buy by Moyes and a great premier league player for Everton.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

You think VVD is that different to Mori? Koeman will look to blend his CB pair. As he did at S'ton. Williams will eventually be captain and he'll either promote Mori or buy in a new CB...as he was about to this summer.

Jags is 34 so of course he's going buy a new CB in the near future ffs

It still doesn't validate your argument

 

[collymcd]

This ^

He's been sound this season so far, and since the addition of Williams we've not shipped a single goal, but Dave feels the need to plough on with his Jags agenda regardless.

There is nothing as tedious as a @davek post. I think botany is probably more suited to his style of analysis.

 

[davek]

He's been one of the premium centrebacks in the premier league since about 2007. He's come through an ACL injury and three managers yet has managed to remain first team and captain for all of them as well as starting centreback for England in a World Cup. Your definition of 'average' is ridiculous. Every time you proclaim he's finished he just proves you wrong again. A fantastic buy by Moyes and a great premier league player for Everton.

Where was he last season then, this "fantastic buy"?

Hiding behind the couch avoiding the boos at Goodison.

 

[tadao]

You think VVD is that different to Mori? Koeman will look to blend his CB pair as he did at S'ton. Williams will eventually be captain and he'll either promote Mori or buy in a new CB...as he was about to this summer.

Williams isn't young so he's a here and now player. I would agree with the 'blend' comment if it weren't for Kone being the player you talk about. Kone is a Jags/Williams type player not a Mori type.
So maybe RK, as he has consistently done since being here, is simply telling the truth, when he says he needs 4 CB's?