Possible Director of Football

[Nymzee]

Moyes wants to manage in the top flight can't see him interested in being a DOF yet.

 

[toffeejack]

hope we put PSG in their place one day

 

[jcgefc]

So if Monchi is off do we think Overmars could be the next target?

 

[AaronTheBlue]

monchi isn't exactly off is it, just because one or two papers in france reported it.

Even though the PSG manager probably isn't leaving anyway.

 

[jcgefc]

Should of put 'if' in bold.

 

[blulouie]

Anyway, whilst Monchi would be my first choice, Moyes wouldn't be a bad DOF if you could get past the ego.

Haha.

Imagine the scene's

Koeman departs at some future date (lured by Barca)

Step up the Saviour Moyes , takes the reigns as manager.



Aint happening baby.

 

[gmb]

So if Monchi is off do we think Overmars could be the next target?

Would be my guess but I'm shockingly out of the know.

 

[riddick]

Still think Löw could be had, maybe the Euros are the holdup here?



Haahaha, no, they aren't

 

[Nymzee]

How about we get in a guy that's actually been a DOF before or is one yeh? Shouts for Moyes, Loew etc. are horrendous we have no idea if they could even do the job properly.

 

[Walter Ego]

The DoF role is far more than this when done properly. It seems to have a negative connotation around PL managers not able to work with one because they somehow have players forced on them. It doesn't , or shouldn't , work like this . If we can get a top DoF then it will be the final piece in the jigsaw for the structure of our club, putting everything in place from majority shareholder, DoF, Manager, coaches, Academy director , academy coaches etc. Very few managers create a legacy that extends once they've gone , DoF s have the opportunity to shape our structure for years to come .

I'm all for shedding the workload of the manager so he can concentrate on the squad but when it comes to DOF people only talk about who he's bought and how much they were sold for. What will he be doing that makes you think it's a good idea?

 

[AmericanBlue]

How about we get in a guy that's actually been a DOF before or is one yeh? Shouts for Moyes, Loew etc. are horrendous we have no idea if they could even do the job properly.

Exactly. Some of the names are ridiculous. It's a real job, not some trophy role for some manager or player that has previous success elsewhere. And we really should have learned over the years, just because you were once at Everton as a player should not mean a job for life. We need to move away from that mindset and I am sure we will.

If we look at the Emery to us rumours that were mostly created by Evertonians on forums and the lack of any real facts, we see that Monchi is the same, there is not much there in the Spanish press about him joining us at the moment, so I would discount Monchi completely. Also Overmars looks like a risk. I don't think it will be him, what has he done? Not much.

 

[Taff]

If we look at the Emery to us rumours that were mostly created by Evertonians on forums and the lack of any real facts, we see that Monchi is the same, there is not much there in the Spanish press about him joining us at the moment, so I would discount Monchi completely.

So true this. A lot of the 'rumours' were just created by our own whispers on these forums.

 

[mightymoyes]

Anyway, whilst Monchi would be my first choice, Moyes wouldn't be a bad DOF if you could get past the ego.

give over hes an ballbag and widely disliked by everyone at everton apart from kenwright. he would bring the positive atmosphere of the whole club down. wish people would stop suggesting him for a role at the club.

 

[catcherintherye]

Exactly. Some of the names are ridiculous. It's a real job, not some trophy role for some manager or player that has previous success elsewhere. And we really should have learned over the years, just because you were once at Everton as a player should not mean a job for life. We need to move away from that mindset and I am sure we will.

You've made some really good posts on the benefit of a DOF. I do agree with the sentiment of concern of proposing a Joachim Loew. I think it's difficult because often the best DOF sit in the background and aren't very well known. Part of the role of scouting is being unknown and getting work done efficiently. The media coverage Monchi has got will make things more challenging for him as everyone knows he is looking to buy players who are worth more than they are priced at, so prices may go up.

In that context people are suggesting names that could be massively left field. I think with Loew (who I have advocated) I suppose the skills he has displayed I do think would fit us quite well. He has always played the long game in Germany. He has managed coaches below him with the national team and a huge amount of his job he has dedicated to youth development and creating a winning and clear ethos they play too. When I've heard him speak/be interviewed he always strikes me as a clear, logical and intelligent man. I think the attributes he has shown would be very welcome at our club.

There is a big question mark over transfers. It isn't just as simple as being a big name and impressing agents. You have to know how to co-ordinate and manage a series of scouts and agents. That's an area of weakness for Loew. I do think the good outweighs the bad though.

 

[Nymzee]

You've made some really good posts on the benefit of a DOF. I do agree with the sentiment of concern of proposing a Joachim Loew. I think it's difficult because often the best DOF sit in the background and aren't very well known. Part of the role of scouting is being unknown and getting work done efficiently. The media coverage Monchi has got will make things more challenging for him as everyone knows he is looking to buy players who are worth more than they are priced at, so prices may go up.

In that context people are suggesting names that could be massively left field. I think with Loew (who I have advocated) I suppose the skills he has displayed I do think would fit us quite well. He has always played the long game in Germany. He has managed coaches below him with the national team and a huge amount of his job he has dedicated to youth development and creating a winning and clear ethos they play too. When I've heard him speak/be interviewed he always strikes me as a clear, logical and intelligent man. I think the attributes he has shown would be very welcome at our club.

There is a big question mark over transfers. It isn't just as simple as being a big name and impressing agents. You have to know how to co-ordinate and manage a series of scouts and agents. That's an area of weakness for Loew. I do think the good outweighs the bad though.

I really don't think the roles and responsibilities of a national team job can prepare you for being a DOF. You check up on your own pool, pick accordingly, train them for a bit, play them. Not a lot else into it. Absolutely no scouting required since he's only looking at one nation over a few leagues.

His time as a club manager was horrendously bad. Can't see sense in these shouts tbh.