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Nymzee said:
Plus you could argue Sevilla are considered a "selling" club which we don't want to be. I know he has brought ample replacements in but not every transfer works. I wouldn't really want Everton to have such squad turnover every year.
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Nobody would want to see us as a selling club. His record simply indicates that he can spot raw and/or unproven talent for minimal fees whose subsequent transfer value significantly increases whilst being an on-field asset which can only be in the clubs interest.

In addition, there naturally has to be some 'churn' in a squad to keep it fresh and make room for new signings. Not least as well we need the flexibility to trade and pay bigger wages under FFP rules.
 
brieverton said:
Nobody would want to see us as a selling club. His record simply indicates that he can spot raw and/or unproven talent for minimal fees whose subsequent transfer value significantly increases whilst being an on-field asset which can only be in the clubs interest.

In addition, there naturally has to be some 'churn' in a squad to keep it fresh and make room for new signings. Not least as well we need the flexibility to trade and pay bigger wages under FFP rules.
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Agreed but I see a lot of similarities between the way Southampton and Sevilla work and they're called a selling club every day.
 
Is the fact of whether you are known as a buying or selling club that important??

I would have thought that regardless of that, when you break it down the fundamental basics are just the same.

You need the DOF and the Manager to be in tune with each other and understand who is responsible for what and be able to work towards a common aim - and the DOF and his network are surely applying the same basic principals of ability, potential, character etc to find the right players - the only thing that changes is that the pond in which we fish is that bit bigger because of cash we now supposedly have.
 
brieverton said:
Nobody would want to see us as a selling club. His record simply indicates that he can spot raw and/or unproven talent for minimal fees whose subsequent transfer value significantly increases whilst being an on-field asset which can only be in the clubs interest.

In addition, there naturally has to be some 'churn' in a squad to keep it fresh and make room for new signings. Not least as well we need the flexibility to trade and pay bigger wages under FFP rules.
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Monchi is frankly the Jose Mourinho of DOF. It would be hard to find anyone across Europe who has done a better job.

The only question would be how far can his skills be transferred to a different setting. That is the only gamble. How would he do at a club that were looking at net spends every transfer window?
 
billytoffee said:
Is the fact of whether you are known as a buying or selling club that important??

I would have thought that regardless of that, when you break it down the fundamental basics are just the same.

You need the DOF and the Manager to be in tune with each other and understand who is responsible for what and be able to work towards a common aim - and the DOF and his network are surely applying the same basic principals of ability, potential, character etc to find the right players - the only thing that changes is that the pond in which we fish is that bit bigger because of cash we now supposedly have.
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Yes it is. 'Selling clubs' are ones that cannot if they so chose, keep hold of their best players.

Aston Villa became a selling club. Losing players against their wishes.


We want to be a buying club. Able to stick two fingers up to other clubs if we so wish.

I think we have that now. We didn't in the Bill Kenwright era.

No one is going anywhere unless Moshiri says so and if that does happen we should have TWO better players come in.

Thats a 'buying club'.

Thats Everton now.
 

micknick said:
I always thought a lot of scouts are freelance? Like they contact managers they have a relationship and then get a percentage of the player. Might be wrong.
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Think it's a mixture of both, some employed directly by the club and under contract. I'd have my doubts about freelance agents, as if I was one, I'd hawk a potential player around to get the best deal for myself and would have no loyalty to anyone.
 
catcherintherye said:
Monchi is frankly the Jose Mourinho of DOF. It would be hard to find anyone across Europe who has done a better job.

The only question would be how far can his skills be transferred to a different setting. That is the only gamble. How would he do at a club that were looking at net spends every transfer window?
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It would be hard to name five director of footballers around Europe.
 

Think there is too much emphasis on buying vs. selling clubs.

You can argue that Spurs, Arsenal, and Liverpool all are or have been selling clubs over the last decade. It has not overtly affected their overall reputation as I see it.

It is one thing having to sell as an economic necessity which we do not have to face and another when a club higher in the food chain comes calling for your player. At that point the size of the bid and the players wishes/contractual state come into consideration. If Stones had 18 months of his contract to run last season, it would have placed Chelsea in the driving seat to sign him.

We are not in a scenario like Southampton where they have a limited ceiling and lack the potential and size of fanbase of a club like ours.

A DOF should only enhance, not detract, from the core foundation we have in place.

In the strictest terms, possibly only Barca and Real Madrid are immune from bids on players they see as integral to their squads.
 
bizzaro said:
Yes it is. 'Selling clubs' are ones that cannot if they so chose, keep hold of their best players.

Aston Villa became a selling club. Losing players against their wishes.


We want to be a buying club. Able to stick two fingers up to other clubs if we so wish.

I think we have that now. We didn't in the Bill Kenwright era.

No one is going anywhere unless Moshiri says so and if that does happen we should have TWO better players come in.

Thats a 'buying club'.

Thats Everton now.
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I get that mate and agree !

The point I was making is that it doesn't necessarily make a difference to the role of the DOF if you are a buying or selling type club. The basic principles of that role remain the same.
 
http://www.express.co.uk/sport/foot...d-Moshiri-Premier-League-Transfer-Gossip-News

Everton chiefs plot Director of Football move to aid Ronald Koeman's £100m transfer spree
EVERTON chairman Bill Kenwright has confirmed he is looking to appoint a Director of Football to work with new boss Ronald Koeman.
By RICHARD TANNER
PUBLISHED: 22:30, Sun, Jun 19, 2016

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Everton boss Ronald Koeman stands alongside club chairman Bill Kenwright at his official unveiling
Kenwright has always conducted transfer dealings alongside his managers but believes the time has come to change, especially with Iranian businessman Farhad Moshiri, now the club’s main share holder, pledging a £100m budget for new signings this summer.

“It’s something I wasn’t used to so I didn’t really know a lot about it because there seemed to be a lot of cross-fertilisation with my role,” he said. “But it is modern football and if you get the right one it is a big plus.

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Express Sport takes a look at a few potential targets that new Everton boss Ronald Koeman could look to bring in at Goodison Park
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“We are talking to various first rate people who have been mentioned. What I have picked up in the last four weeks is it is an important role and, if done right, it can add to a football club. Ronald has worked with a lot of director of footballs and will embrace that as well as theEverton way. “

Kenwright revealed that he and Moshiri both installed Koeman as their No 1 choice to become Roberto Martinez’s successor. And he believes Everton fans are happy with the decision to appoint the 53-year-old Dutchman, who guided Southampton into the Europa League two seasons running.

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He added: “From literally the day the decision was made [to sack Martinez], Farhad said ‘I want Ronald Koeman’ and I said ‘so do I.’ And I’ve seldom known such unanimity among supporters, especially in a fan base like ours, where you inevitably get moaners.

“It’s never easy to get rid of a manager, especially if he is a good guy as Roberto undoubtedly is, but it is a results business and they went badly for us. There was a shortlist of five in case we could not get Ronald but I have to say Southampton were very straightforward and good to deal with.”

Kenwright says that backed by Moshiri’s wealth, Everton can break into the top four under Koeman's guidance.

“Farhad has a vision for this football club. It involves the Champions League and a new stadium,” he said. “I don’t think for one second Ronald has joined us and is not thinking of Champions League. But he’s pragmatic. Has he said ‘I will get you in the Champions League?’ No. Has he said he thinks this club should be in the top four? Yes. Definitely.

“Ronald has a list of potential targets. We support managers. He knows that. We will try and give him what he wants.”
 
kithnou said:
http://www.express.co.uk/sport/foot...d-Moshiri-Premier-League-Transfer-Gossip-News

Everton chiefs plot Director of Football move to aid Ronald Koeman's £100m transfer spree
EVERTON chairman Bill Kenwright has confirmed he is looking to appoint a Director of Football to work with new boss Ronald Koeman.
By RICHARD TANNER
PUBLISHED: 22:30, Sun, Jun 19, 2016

Ronald-Koeman-681278.jpg
GETTY

Everton boss Ronald Koeman stands alongside club chairman Bill Kenwright at his official unveiling
Kenwright has always conducted transfer dealings alongside his managers but believes the time has come to change, especially with Iranian businessman Farhad Moshiri, now the club’s main share holder, pledging a £100m budget for new signings this summer.

“It’s something I wasn’t used to so I didn’t really know a lot about it because there seemed to be a lot of cross-fertilisation with my role,” he said. “But it is modern football and if you get the right one it is a big plus.

Will England beat Slovakia? Predict the score and win £1,000s in our FREE game
Everton summer transfer targets
Tue, June 14, 2016
Express Sport takes a look at a few potential targets that new Everton boss Ronald Koeman could look to bring in at Goodison Park
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facebook.png

google.png

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142488.jpg

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1 of 10
Express Sport takes a look at who Ronald Koeman might look to bring in at Everton during the summer transfer window

“We are talking to various first rate people who have been mentioned. What I have picked up in the last four weeks is it is an important role and, if done right, it can add to a football club. Ronald has worked with a lot of director of footballs and will embrace that as well as theEverton way. “

Kenwright revealed that he and Moshiri both installed Koeman as their No 1 choice to become Roberto Martinez’s successor. And he believes Everton fans are happy with the decision to appoint the 53-year-old Dutchman, who guided Southampton into the Europa League two seasons running.

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He added: “From literally the day the decision was made [to sack Martinez], Farhad said ‘I want Ronald Koeman’ and I said ‘so do I.’ And I’ve seldom known such unanimity among supporters, especially in a fan base like ours, where you inevitably get moaners.

“It’s never easy to get rid of a manager, especially if he is a good guy as Roberto undoubtedly is, but it is a results business and they went badly for us. There was a shortlist of five in case we could not get Ronald but I have to say Southampton were very straightforward and good to deal with.”

Kenwright says that backed by Moshiri’s wealth, Everton can break into the top four under Koeman's guidance.

“Farhad has a vision for this football club. It involves the Champions League and a new stadium,” he said. “I don’t think for one second Ronald has joined us and is not thinking of Champions League. But he’s pragmatic. Has he said ‘I will get you in the Champions League?’ No. Has he said he thinks this club should be in the top four? Yes. Definitely.

“Ronald has a list of potential targets. We support managers. He knows that. We will try and give him what he wants.”
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He added: “From literally the day the decision was made [to sack Martinez], Farhad said ‘I want Ronald Koeman’ and I said ‘so do I.’

Oh Bill...
 

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