Proposed changes to the Premier league

[Ruairi77]

It won’t buy you past employment laws and anti competition laws in hundreds of countries simultaneously

they don't have to get round hundreds of countries laws, just the EU and UK.
And to be honest, I'd say it's probably not difficult to regulate wages in a league which select clubs are members of.
The salary cap would be so high that most other countries leagues/teams couldn't come near it.
Also, players would make an absolute fortune in person appearance/endorsements/image rights.
The only way you stop this is through UEFA and the member teams FA's. All these organizations can be bought.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

They have let clubs have both for awhile now but with the risks attached. I don't think it will be easy to tell them now they can't have both, even if that would get the greed under control a bit. It isn't a great situation as the only real solution is for the big clubs to say "No, I think I'm happy with the absurd amount of money I have currently." Rich people don't do that.

It’s dead easy to tell them. The FA & PL will not sanction this, end of. So any club wanting part of it would have a choice to make.

Not that this is anything other than United & the RS making a hollow threat after having their Project rinse the rest, lobbed clean in the bin.

 

[TheBigIguana]

It’s dead easy to tell them. The FA & PL will not sanction this, end of. So any club wanting part of it would have a choice to make.

Not that this is anything other than United & the RS making a hollow threat after having their Project rinse the rest, lobbed clean in the bin.

The end game is they want a system where they are getting a PL check and a CL check pretty much guaranteed every year. This they think might accomplish that so they want it. If UEFA says we will change the CL rules to guarantee it instead they'll go for that. United, Arsenal and others have realized this is what they want though.

 

[The binman chronicles]

I hear that the utd owners are only going to be able to take out 6 million this year with the pandemic cutting into profits. Seeing there are 6 of them that's only 1 million pounds each, could you live on that paltry amount? It barely covers the cost of hiring the private island for a 2 week holiday.

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[Foot Long Hot Dog]

they don't have to get round hundreds of countries laws, just the EU and UK.
And to be honest, I'd say it's probably not difficult to regulate wages in a league which select clubs are members of.
The salary cap would be so high that most other countries leagues/teams couldn't come near it.
Also, players would make an absolute fortune in person appearance/endorsements/image rights.
The only way you stop this is through UEFA and the member teams FA's. All these organizations can be bought.

A cap on an individuals income is against the law here, and so can’t and won’t happen.

Salary caps can only be on a clubs total wages spend as a percentage of turnover.

 

[Brennan]

A cap on an individuals income is against the law here, and so can’t and won’t happen.

Salary caps can only be on a clubs total wages spend as a percentage of turnover.

The league could introduce a club salary cap if it wants regardless of turnover. Already happens in rugby.

 

[Mikey O]

It's clearly all a bit murky with plenty of details missing but if it's five premiership clubs moving then why would the other fifteen support it? It will get the same amount of support as the "big project" received, i.e. a unanimous no.

Should five clubs go against the majority and go against the wish of the majority then I would expect that the Premiership (i.e. remaining fifteen) would expel the five.

If "big picture" couldn't get support then neither will this proposal.

Promotion and relegation are the foundations of the game in this country, Europe and South America without it then the competition suggested would become sterile.

 

[Librarian]

they don't have to get round hundreds of countries laws, just the EU and UK.
And to be honest, I'd say it's probably not difficult to regulate wages in a league which select clubs are members of.
The salary cap would be so high that most other countries leagues/teams couldn't come near it.
Also, players would make an absolute fortune in person appearance/endorsements/image rights.
The only way you stop this is through UEFA and the member teams FA's. All these organizations can be bought.

How do you have a draft from hundreds of countries?
Why on earth would the EU allow a salary cap? Every club in football wants this and it hasn’t happened yet.

And also this:

UEFA: “The UEFA President has made it clear on many occasions that UEFA strongly opposes a Super League. The principles of solidarity, of promotion, relegation and open leagues are non-negotiable. It is what makes European football work”

 

[Ruairi77]

A cap on an individuals income is against the law here, and so can’t and won’t happen.

Salary caps can only be on a clubs total wages spend as a percentage of turnover.

yea so you centralize the turnover so it's for the league as a whole rather than the clubs and then you set an upper limit on what each team can spend on wages.
You're not capping an individuals income as they can still earn on image rights etc. Your capping the amount a club can spend on players wages. They'd be limiting themselves. The league (parent company) determines the wages of its players (employees).
It's simple and could happen quickly if not checked.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

The league could introduce a club salary cap if it wants regardless of turnover. Already happens in rugby.

Individual players wages can’t be capped, as it’s illegal, that’s the point I was making.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

yea so you centralize the turnover so it's for the league as a whole rather than the clubs and then you set an upper limit on what each team can spend on wages.
You're not capping an individuals income as they can still earn on image rights etc. Your capping the amount a club can spend on players wages. They'd be limiting themselves. The league (parent company) determines the wages of its players (employees).
It's simple and could happen quickly if not checked.

So players become the assets of the league? Just no.

 

[Ruairi77]

How do you have a draft from hundreds of countries?
Why on earth would the EU allow a salary cap? Every club in football wants this and it hasn’t happened yet.

And also this:

You don't have a draft from hundreds of countries.
Any league with no relegation would be centralized. The league would have much more power than the individual clubs.
If there was a transfer draft system, I'd imagine the team that finishes bottom would be allowed to make bigger purchases by the parent league.
This would be the same for player wages.
Franchise football...
and it wouldn't break any rules.

 

[Ruairi77]

So players become the assets of the league? Just no.

look, I'm not advocating for it, I'm just warning you.
Henry, Kroenke, Glaziers et al don't want a pyramid system, they want to be in a system they own/regulate with no relegation and that means franchise football.

 

[Ruairi77]

Individual players wages can’t be capped, as it’s illegal, that’s the point I was making.

They can if the league owns them.

 

[Librarian]

The colleges system in the US is a million miles from a worldwide network of disparate leagues and countries and legal frameworks.

Why would the rest of the industry, who are competing corporate entities (not academic bodies) want to sign up to a system whereby they have to do all the recruitment and nurturing and following of rules, only to have their investments ‘drafted’ into a rival market they have no access to and is cannibalising their own business.

The PL unanimously told them to get stuffed only last week.