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2021/22 Rafael Benitez

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So you don't use net spend for Benitez at Newcastle but you do for Moyes while he was at Everton.

Seems like you shift the goalposts to try and make your argument more convincing each time.

All our recent managers have been backed.
Kind of the reason I mentioned it. Because the goalposts change constantly depending on the manager. (Personally I think net spend isn't a real argument. If they have they spent the money they have been backed, but im using it to prove a point)

Didn't you literally say the managers of other clubs weren't 'backed' as they had brought in more than they spent earlier?

You then claimed all our manager in last 20 have been backed massively. Moyes only spent 5.6m, so which is it? He was backed, or wasn't backed?
 
Southampton 48%
Burnley 52%
Brighton 34%
Arsenal 36%
Chelsea 20%

They are the games you mentioned above where "we took the game to the opposition to get the win or draw". A few more for interest

Leeds (A) 30%
Utd (A) 28%
City (A) 23%
Liverpool 31%

Only the 52 against Burnley listed above and the 60% away at Brentford are the only games we have had more then 50% possession, its completely unsustainable. We are 2nd bottom for average possession over the season, only Newcastle have worse.

Bottom 6 are
Newcastle
Everton
Burnley
Watford
Villa
Norwich

So you have the bottom 4, ourselves and Villa. 5 of the bottom 6, the cause and effect can be seen, you cannot survive in this league trying to play without the ball

42.4% possession.

I suggest you look at how Leicester won the league. You absolutely can survive in this league without majority of the possession. It’s call counter attack.
 

so.... the Board (and us) are persisting with what everyone recognises as a failed manager (purely based on results compared to the last 5 sackings) because the Board don't have a clue and didn't back him - this literally makes no sense! ... we really are more f-ed up than I thought.
everyone recognises as a failed manager? I recognise that he needs players who will give everything on the pitch, a bit of depth to cope with injuries. When he has had time to do that (after next summer) I will begin to judge him. Hell of a mess to clear up first.
 
You could say that about us to. Fan expectation is far higher than anything that can ever be achieved. Spurs will never win the premier league or any other significant trophy.

We will likely never win anything ever again in my lifetime. Seventh is our trophy.
No, things change, nothing stays the same. If it did nobody would bother. It was always Liverpool then Man U, Arsenal then Chelsea, then City. Dont forget Leicester, It takes longer now but it happens.
 
Is it?

Weve won more titles than 2 of them. We are miles bigger than Tottenham. What have they done to be bigger than us?

I'm sorry, but some fans dont know the size of our club.
Tottenham is a fair call. Arsenal is miles off and, in my opinion, Chelsea's European trophies far outweigh the few titles difference between us. Winning a title 2 centuries ago is worth less than a Champion's league. Besides, they've won loads of domestic cups too.

Like it or not, Arsenal and Chelsea are bigger clubs than we are.
 
Only a fool or a liar would claim that we're a bigger club than Arsenal. I can't think of a single argument, even a tenuous one, that could be made for us being a bigger club. They have more trophies, a better stadium and a better current team.
Maybe I’m a fool but what I would say is I reckon our fit 1st 11 is better than Arsenals
Also I have no respect for them whatsoever as a football club. Arsenal FC should be renamed Redundancy FC. They made a lot of their staff redundant during the pandemic but then go and spend 160 million on their squad. Absolutely disgusting club
So IMO Everton are better than them full stop in every way
Everton (us) yes us refused to go down that road with our employees so have a think about that
Hate them the Tory rats
 
Maybe I’m a fool but what I would say is I reckon our fit 1st 11 is better than Arsenals
Also I have no respect for them whatsoever as a football club. Arsenal FC should be renamed Redundancy FC. They made a lot of their staff redundant during the pandemic but then go and spend 160 million on their squad. Absolutely disgusting club
So IMO Everton are better than them full stop in every way
Everton (us) yes us refused to go down that road with our employees so have a think about that
Hate them the Tory rats
Whilst they may be a disgusting club they are still bigger.
 

I suggest you look at how Leicester won the league. You absolutely can survive in this league without majority of the possession. It’s call counter attack.
I call it anti - football.
Watching it from your own team week in week out is mind numbingly boring.
And Everton F.C. are not Leicester.
I get some people are fine with it.
But I despise it.
 
His new year resolution

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Signs a player on the 1st day of the window unlike a certain dithering Brands running around like a headless chicken on deadline day.

May I have another serving please Mr Benitez?
 
I think Everton are a Club with stature and respect.. they have a history right up there with all the top clubs in the league... however the big problem is the criteria of what a big club or how it’s respected has changed from yesteryear..
When I was growing up there was a big five.. United.. Liverpool.. Everton.. Spurs and Arsenal... fast forward to now it’s Manchester City.. Chelsea.. United.. Arsenal and Liverpool..two of the original big clubs dropped out Everton and Spurs.. the big change in the game was money.. that altered the landscape.. any team no matter how small could gatecrash the big five if they came into money.. Blackburn under Jack Walker threatened it.. Roman Abramovic at Chelsea did it, the sheikhs who came close to buying Everton but opted for City because they had a new stadium in place have enabled City to make the big five and soon to be Newcastle will also join it and probably knock Arsenal and Liverpool out.. to be honest there is only a big two because Arsenal.. Liverpool and United are no longer in the same stratosphere of spending and power anymore as Chelsea and City..
I grant you.. every eight or ten years the big two will have a bad season together and that will allow a Leicester City or Liverpool situation to happen.. bit like Athletico in Spain winning there instead of Barca and Madrid.. it happens every blue moon..

I just think football because of money has become boring and very predictable.. once Newcastle get going the chances of any behind the big three winning the League will be virtually non existent.. all clubs will just exist nothing more.. you will get cup runs or one off victories against the big three and that will be what you try to work towards...
even getting a sheikh to take over probably won’t make any difference because the big clubs want to keep a closed shop and would veto it like they tried with Newcastle..
 

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