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Quite possibly the most stupid and generalizing statement I have ever read on a football forum internet site. Thats some going because not even RAWK could plumb the depths you just have. Congratulations.

Back to the level headed audience. There was a really good program about Ramadan on channel 4 three or four days ago - it was fronted by a retired rugby league player that is obviously a Muslim and the show went around the community, to the cash n carry to discover the effects on staff and stock, predominantly muslim schools, next door neighbours, a Muslim that converted in 1973, it was fascinating. Instead of approaching the subject and the people with hate and prejudice I actually gave the show the time of day with a clean slate. Judge not lest ye be judged.

Great post.
 
Quite possibly the most stupid and generalizing statement I have ever read on a football forum internet site. Thats some going because not even RAWK could plumb the depths you just have. Congratulations.

Back to the level headed audience. There was a really good program about Ramadan on channel 4 three or four days ago - it was fronted by a retired rugby league player that is obviously a Muslim and the show went around the community, to the cash n carry to discover the effects on staff and stock, predominantly muslim schools, next door neighbours, a Muslim that converted in 1973, it was fascinating. Instead of approaching the subject and the people with hate and prejudice I actually gave the show the time of day with a clean slate. Judge not lest ye be judged.

How is it? Muslims are not allowed to marry non muslims, or if they do the other half are expected to convert and it is 'encouraged' that that person be not from a different race.

I'm not saying all individual muslims are racist, but the ideology itself taken literally is probably the most ancient form of fascism.
 
I'm not saying all individual muslims are racist, but the ideology itself taken literally is probably the most ancient form of fascism.

Two in two. I quote "Quite possibly the most stupid and generalizing statement I have ever read on a football forum internet site."
How many ancient texts have you studied and authenticated? How many Holy wars and state persecutory revolutions have you read up on? Seems your on a wind up, and trying to kick a religious faith around is not a wise place to start.
 
Two in two. I quote "Quite possibly the most stupid and generalizing statement I have ever read on a football forum internet site."
How many ancient texts have you studied and authenticated? How many Holy wars and state persecutory revolutions have you read up on? Seems your on a wind up, and trying to kick a religious faith around is not a wise place to start.


Go and ask a muslim family if they will allow their daughter to marry the 'white boy'.
 

but the ideology itself taken literally is probably the most ancient form of fascism.

When you pick out one faith it is only natural to be presented with examples of other people that worship other faiths stepping way out of line. And if you "cba" why start in the first place. WUM !
 
When you pick out one faith it is only natural to be presented with examples of other people that worship other faiths stepping way out of line. And if you "cba" why start in the first place. WUM !

Nah just sick to death of it being ignored. 7/7 barely mentioned yet we have tv programmed and leading figures talking about ramadam which is followed by 5% (so they say) of the population.
 
Didn't say christianity was whiter than white mate.

Again its the 'what about this what about that?' Argument whenever islam is talked about.

Cba. Carry on.
You are talking about 1.5ish Billion people though, it's almost inevitable that faith is going to be badly practised by some. You are also talking about quite contrasting cultures, so again, inevitably there will be things you view as abhorrent and things that you do that some of them will find highly offensive.
 
Didn't say christianity was whiter than white mate.

Again its the 'what about this what about that?' Argument whenever islam is talked about.

Cba. Carry on.

Most extremists are bad bells,whatever thier religion. thats my point.

You give the impression that you think all muslims or certainly the majority are extremists.I would dissagree with that.
 

This is one of the more interesting pieces the BBC Football team have produced recently.

It's about Muslim players in the Premier League:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23159023

Interesting reading. I hadn't even noticed that they'd phased out champagne as a MOTM award.

Playing devil's advocate for a moment - would the reverse happen if a large number of Christian footballers played in Turkey or Pakistan? Would they introduce champagne as an award for the dozens of Christian players that enjoyed drinking as part of their culture?
 
Interesting reading. I hadn't even noticed that they'd phased out champagne as a MOTM award.

Playing devil's advocate for a moment - would the reverse happen if a large number of Christian footballers played in Turkey or Pakistan? Would they introduce champagne as an award for the dozens of Christian players that enjoyed drinking as part of their culture?
Well no, because Christians can do without champagne, whereas Muslims would find it very difficult to accept.
 
Personally if you look at the world, where islam is followed to the letter of the law, the places in question are horrendous. I don't want that trickling over here.

It already is, weve got like 30 sharia law courts. As I already mentioned we are expected to adapt an accomodate them but I don't see it happening the other way round? This is a western country where women are allowed to wear skirts, where people can bum eachother and where (hopefully) race and religion is less of an issue than most other places. They cry racism and islamophobia but they seem to be the most racist and 'other religion-o-phobic'. Ask them what they think of jewish people, or women walking around in skirts in 'their islamic areas in England'. They are intent on non intergration. Simply not interested.
 
Nah just sick to death of it being ignored. 7/7 barely mentioned yet we have tv programmed and leading figures talking about ramadam which is followed by 5% (so they say) of the population.

Queenie went and shook Martin McGuinness' hand, live in TV.
 

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